I never was able to run cinelerra... it crashed tooo badly...  I'm a
professional linux and service provider since 2004, and I know no to
migrate to my workflow to the newer versions until fully tested....

That is how Open Source works, and every time there is a big change, like
newest version from KDEnlive, a lot of work is needed to get to the
stability of the previous I remeber when linux changed to glibc, what a
nightmare, migration from lilo to grub? awful... the introduction of LVM?
just dont' start when kdelibs changed their licence model to GPL.... O my
good what a soup opera is Linux...

This instability is needed, but will always achieve better results....

Don't give up on kdenlive, just return to your working version, that is the
idea of appimages, allow us go back and forth version with out compromising
our source of income...
That is how professionals work...




On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 3:00 AM Mettavihari D <tv.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Greetings from Sri Lanka
>
> We are clear Open Source Users, started with Cinelerra some years ago,
> after that switched to Kdenlive with blender to support in the graphics.
> I still like the basic cinerella.
>
> Sure we will also try Olive, but at present we have close to 50 PCs
> running Ubuntu and Kdenlive.
>
> So thanks to all of you for staying alive.
> We do not talk much on the list, but at least you know that you have
> users,  who are happy that you exist.
>
> Mettavihari
>
> On Sat, 11 May 2019, 19:03 Jacob Kauffmann, <ja...@nerdonthestreet.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sat, May 11, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Tobiasz Karoń wrote:
>>
>> If you want to just "cut the tape" and don't need any effects or
>> compositing - Kdenlvie may be acceptable. But not if you want to do
>> anything more complex.
>>
>>
>> I don't think this is true, and I strongly dislike the implication that
>> people who use Kdenlive aren't "serious" editors. I've been using Kdenlive
>> since at least 2012, and over the years, I've done all kinds of
>> compositing, rotoscoping, color correction, chroma-keying, and other things
>> with it beyond simply "cutting the tape."
>>
>> I do agree that the limitations you talked about are very real issues-- I
>> have felt like I'm "pushing the limits" of Kdenlive with some of my
>> projects (although I'm always proud to do so.) I didn't even realize how
>> much of an issue the lack of GPU utilization was until I tried Resolve for
>> a month. (I still ended up coming back to Kdenlive because it's libre
>> software and because Resolve doesn't work with the open-source AMDGPU
>> drivers and ROCm OpenCL, though.)
>>
>> As far as "starting over" goes, my impression is that that's the point of
>> refactoring sections of the program: to get rid of the old built-up crud
>> that's holding things back. I would be interested to know how closely the
>> Kdenlive devs work/are willing to work with MLT to improve it alongside the
>> frontend.
>>
>> Just my two cents, since it seems like it's sharing day.
>>
>> - Jacob Kauffmann
>>
>

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