Sam,

I agree that credentials should only be forwarded when needed and I also agree that 
the MS implementation of Kerberos gives less control over this than non-MS 
implementations of Kerberos. 

In this particular example we have a Web application which needs user credentials to 
communicate with a back-end system. We are therefore able to control the use of 
credential forwarding within the scope of this application. However, the Safari 
browser does not appear to support the credential delegation capability that MS have 
implemented in IE/IIS. If the account principal used for IIS server is set to 'ok as 
delegate' in AD then a Safari browser is supposed to obtain a forwarded tgt from the 
KDC and pass to IIS server, but it is not doing this.

I talked to Apple earlier today, but the person I spoke to doesn't appear to be very 
knowledgeable about this area of their products. I wondered if MIT were involved in 
the Kerberos enablement of Safari in any way ?

Thanks, Tim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Hartman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 December 2003 16:06
To: Tim Alsop
Cc: swbell; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Macintosh Safari Browser and IIS with Kerberos

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Alsop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Tim>    Sam,

    Tim>    I don't understand your comment about authorisation. Can
    Tim> you explain ?

    Tim>    Specially, what is the difference between using a Mac OSX
    Tim> client and a Windows client to access the same IIS server
    Tim> with credential delegation for a specific web application ?

First, I'm concerned that Microsoft may tend to forward credentials more than is ideal.

More importantly, I suspect that the OSX Kerberos support will be used in many wider 
environments than the IIS support.  All the machines in a Windows domain tend to be 
under relatively tight administrative control of a single organization.  That's not 
generally true of a Kerberos realm.

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