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Markus KRB_AS_REP Message Contents The message includes: . A TGS session key for the user to use with the TGS, encrypted with the user key derived from the user's password. . A TGT for the KDC in tailspintoys.com, encrypted with the TGS key. The TGT includes: . A TGS session key for the KDC to use with the user. . Authorization data for the user. The authorization data includes: . The SID for the user's account. . SIDs for security groups which the user is a member of in the domain tailspintoys.com. . SIDs for universal groups in the enterprise that include either the user or one of the domain groups the user is a member of. When the client receives the KDC's reply to its initial request, the client uses its cached copy of the user key to decrypt its copy of the session key. It can then discard the user key derived from the user's password, for it is no longer needed. In all subsequent exchanges with the KDC, the client uses the TGS session key. Like any other session key, this key is temporary, valid only until the TGT expires or the user logs off. For that reason, the TGS session key is often called a logon session key. "NetSteady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I'm actually speaking about the enc-part of the Kerberos packet itself, > not in the ticket. Is this the part you were speaking of? > > Our problem is that we're trying to validate the password for the user > when we receive the AS-REP packet, but for some reason, we cannot find > where to get the encryption key for the enc-part. 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