Dear Joseph,
Unfortunately I am a Linux newbie. This means that I do not even know what
you mean by "upstream kernel". I do know that when I tried Ubuntu MATE
18.10 that after three days of error messaged I went back to 18.04. I am
still trying to recover data from the initial 18.04 total meltdown (I was
not even able to boot). After installing different versions of Ubuntu three
times in one week, I am leery of trying some method I do not know to try an
"upstream kernel".

I only send in the bug reports to help the developers fix their bugs - as
opposed to John Dominique Wernier's technique of not including the bugs in
first place.

I do know that Ubuntu MATE Artful Ardvark and Bionic Beaver both had this
problem. Maybe its like the Unix limitation of only allowing 125 file
handles or yacc only allowing 425 productions - the program limiting the
size of a resource because he does not keep up with the size of modern
computers. (i.e. Word6 limited to files smaller than 50MB in machines with
1GB RAM.)

I also know that 18.04 is extremely sluggish with a 6TB external drive
mounted (fortunately I did not buy the 8TB drive).

If there is something I can try without having to completely re-install my
OS and all applications, please let me know. I want to help.

Robert Pearson

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:15 AM Joseph Salisbury <
joseph.salisb...@canonical.com> wrote:

> Did this issue start happening after an update/upgrade?  Was there a
> prior kernel version where you were not having this particular problem?
>
> Would it be possible for you to test the latest upstream kernel? Refer
> to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds . Please test the latest
> v4.19 kernel[0].
>
> If this bug is fixed in the mainline kernel, please add the following
> tag 'kernel-fixed-upstream'.
>
> If the mainline kernel does not fix this bug, please add the tag:
> 'kernel-bug-exists-upstream'.
>
> Once testing of the upstream kernel is complete, please mark this bug as
> "Confirmed".
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> [0] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.19
>
> ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
>    Importance: Undecided => Medium
>
> ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
>        Status: Confirmed => Incomplete
>
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> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1801232
>
> Title:
>   Ubuntu MATE crashes when too many external USB drives are mounted.
>
> Status in linux package in Ubuntu:
>   Incomplete
>
> Bug description:
>   I had the following drives mounted:
>   /media/robert/Shared - a second partition of the first internal hard
> drive with an NTFS
>   /media/robert/4TB LaCie - an external USB 3 drive with an NTFS
>   /media/robert/4TB G-Drive - an external USB 3 drive with an NTFS
>   /media/robert/4TB Seagate 1 - an external USB 3 drive with an NTFS file
> system
>   /media/robert/4TB Seagate 2 - an external USB 3 drive with an NTFS file
> system
>   /media/robert/4TB Seagate 3 - an external USB 3 drive with an HFS+ file
> system
>   /media/robert/4TB Seagate 5 - an external USB 3 drive with an NTFS file
> system
>   /media/robert/5TB Seagate 1 - an external USB 3 drive with an ext4 file
> system
>
>   Detected but not mounted were:
>   Win10 - a partition on my second hard drive with an NTFS file system
>   U MATE 14 - a partition on my second hard drive with an ext4 file system
>   Windows10 - a partition on my second hard drive with an NTFS file system
>   701 GB Volume - a partition on my second hard drive with an ext4 file
> system
>   83 GB Volume - a partition on my second hard drive with an ext4 file
> system
>
>   Also attached but not detected is a 6TB Seagate USB 3 drive.
>
>   The HFS+ files system was using hfs package.
>
>   I was copying files from a directory in 4TB Seagate 3 to 4TB Seagate 1
>   using the Terminal cp -anR command. Once all the files had been copied
>   I intended to reformat the drive with a NTFS file system.
>
>   I was using VueScan and it began misbehaving after I had deleted and
>   renamed some directories with CAJA. I exited VueScan and tried to
>   restart it. The initial splash screen displayed, then the program
>   hang. I tried it again. Same results.
>
>   I aborted the terminal copy and did a system shutdown. I saw the
>   Ubuntu shutdown screen. I waited, and waited. I went to bed. After 8
>   hours the shutdown screen was still being displayed. I had to turn the
>   power off. Then I disconnected most of the external drives. I turned
>   power back on and rebooted.
>
>   The 6TB drive did appear and was mounted. I had to disconnect-
>   reconnect the 4TB Seagate 3 (HFS+ file system) a number of times and
>   reboot before it would mount.
>
>   VueScan started properly and works fine. It had been working properly
>   before - the error was that Caja would not show the newly scanned
>   files that VueScan produced. After restarting Ubuntu they showed up
>   proving that VueScan was not at fault.
>
>   Caja is complaining when I try to delete files - see attachment,
>
>   ProblemType: Bug
>   DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04
>   Package: linux-image-4.15.0-38-generic 4.15.0-38.41
>   ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-38.41-generic 4.15.18
>   Uname: Linux 4.15.0-38-generic x86_64
>   ApportVersion: 2.20.9-0ubuntu7.4
>   Architecture: amd64
>   AudioDevicesInUse:
>    USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
>    /dev/snd/controlC1:  robert     2122 F.... pulseaudio
>    /dev/snd/controlC0:  robert     2122 F.... pulseaudio
>   CurrentDesktop: MATE
>   Date: Thu Nov  1 22:20:39 2018
>   HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=aa95f07d-f769-44ca-8b33-0c5b3c78bdeb
>   InstallationDate: Installed on 2018-10-25 (8 days ago)
>   InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-MATE 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Release amd64
> (20180426)
>   MachineType: System manufacturer System Product Name
>   ProcFB: 0 radeondrmfb
>   ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-38-generic
> root=UUID=26dc3ca5-f3ae-47eb-92b6-4f02ed5ba4f0 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1
>   RelatedPackageVersions:
>    linux-restricted-modules-4.15.0-38-generic N/A
>    linux-backports-modules-4.15.0-38-generic  N/A
>    linux-firmware                             1.173.1
>   RfKill:
>    0: phy0: Wireless LAN
>         Soft blocked: no
>         Hard blocked: no
>   SourcePackage: linux
>   UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
>   dmi.bios.date: 04/01/2014
>   dmi.bios.vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
>   dmi.bios.version: 1301
>   dmi.board.asset.tag: To be filled by O.E.M.
>   dmi.board.name: A88XM-A
>   dmi.board.vendor: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
>   dmi.board.version: Rev X.0x
>   dmi.chassis.asset.tag: Asset-1234567890
>   dmi.chassis.type: 3
>   dmi.chassis.vendor: Chassis Manufacture
>   dmi.chassis.version: Chassis Version
>   dmi.modalias:
> dmi:bvnAmericanMegatrendsInc.:bvr1301:bd04/01/2014:svnSystemmanufacturer:pnSystemProductName:pvrSystemVersion:rvnASUSTeKCOMPUTERINC.:rnA88XM-A:rvrRevX.0x:cvnChassisManufacture:ct3:cvrChassisVersion:
>   dmi.product.family: To be filled by O.E.M.
>   dmi.product.name: System Product Name
>   dmi.product.version: System Version
>   dmi.sys.vendor: System manufacturer
>
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Title:
  Ubuntu MATE crashes when too many external USB drives are mounted.

Status in linux package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  I had the following drives mounted:
  /media/robert/Shared - a second partition of the first internal hard drive 
with an NTFS
  /media/robert/4TB LaCie - an external USB 3 drive with an NTFS
  /media/robert/4TB G-Drive - an external USB 3 drive with an NTFS
  /media/robert/4TB Seagate 1 - an external USB 3 drive with an NTFS file system
  /media/robert/4TB Seagate 2 - an external USB 3 drive with an NTFS file system
  /media/robert/4TB Seagate 3 - an external USB 3 drive with an HFS+ file system
  /media/robert/4TB Seagate 5 - an external USB 3 drive with an NTFS file system
  /media/robert/5TB Seagate 1 - an external USB 3 drive with an ext4 file system

  Detected but not mounted were:
  Win10 - a partition on my second hard drive with an NTFS file system
  U MATE 14 - a partition on my second hard drive with an ext4 file system
  Windows10 - a partition on my second hard drive with an NTFS file system
  701 GB Volume - a partition on my second hard drive with an ext4 file system
  83 GB Volume - a partition on my second hard drive with an ext4 file system

  Also attached but not detected is a 6TB Seagate USB 3 drive.

  The HFS+ files system was using hfs package.

  I was copying files from a directory in 4TB Seagate 3 to 4TB Seagate 1
  using the Terminal cp -anR command. Once all the files had been copied
  I intended to reformat the drive with a NTFS file system.

  I was using VueScan and it began misbehaving after I had deleted and
  renamed some directories with CAJA. I exited VueScan and tried to
  restart it. The initial splash screen displayed, then the program
  hang. I tried it again. Same results.

  I aborted the terminal copy and did a system shutdown. I saw the
  Ubuntu shutdown screen. I waited, and waited. I went to bed. After 8
  hours the shutdown screen was still being displayed. I had to turn the
  power off. Then I disconnected most of the external drives. I turned
  power back on and rebooted.

  The 6TB drive did appear and was mounted. I had to disconnect-
  reconnect the 4TB Seagate 3 (HFS+ file system) a number of times and
  reboot before it would mount.

  VueScan started properly and works fine. It had been working properly
  before - the error was that Caja would not show the newly scanned
  files that VueScan produced. After restarting Ubuntu they showed up
  proving that VueScan was not at fault.

  Caja is complaining when I try to delete files - see attachment,

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04
  Package: linux-image-4.15.0-38-generic 4.15.0-38.41
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-38.41-generic 4.15.18
  Uname: Linux 4.15.0-38-generic x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.20.9-0ubuntu7.4
  Architecture: amd64
  AudioDevicesInUse:
   USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
   /dev/snd/controlC1:  robert     2122 F.... pulseaudio
   /dev/snd/controlC0:  robert     2122 F.... pulseaudio
  CurrentDesktop: MATE
  Date: Thu Nov  1 22:20:39 2018
  HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=aa95f07d-f769-44ca-8b33-0c5b3c78bdeb
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2018-10-25 (8 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-MATE 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Release amd64 
(20180426)
  MachineType: System manufacturer System Product Name
  ProcFB: 0 radeondrmfb
  ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-38-generic 
root=UUID=26dc3ca5-f3ae-47eb-92b6-4f02ed5ba4f0 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   linux-restricted-modules-4.15.0-38-generic N/A
   linux-backports-modules-4.15.0-38-generic  N/A
   linux-firmware                             1.173.1
  RfKill:
   0: phy0: Wireless LAN
        Soft blocked: no
        Hard blocked: no
  SourcePackage: linux
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
  dmi.bios.date: 04/01/2014
  dmi.bios.vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
  dmi.bios.version: 1301
  dmi.board.asset.tag: To be filled by O.E.M.
  dmi.board.name: A88XM-A
  dmi.board.vendor: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
  dmi.board.version: Rev X.0x
  dmi.chassis.asset.tag: Asset-1234567890
  dmi.chassis.type: 3
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Chassis Manufacture
  dmi.chassis.version: Chassis Version
  dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnAmericanMegatrendsInc.:bvr1301:bd04/01/2014:svnSystemmanufacturer:pnSystemProductName:pvrSystemVersion:rvnASUSTeKCOMPUTERINC.:rnA88XM-A:rvrRevX.0x:cvnChassisManufacture:ct3:cvrChassisVersion:
  dmi.product.family: To be filled by O.E.M.
  dmi.product.name: System Product Name
  dmi.product.version: System Version
  dmi.sys.vendor: System manufacturer

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