i read "experimental" in those links - and i think there are people who dislike installing their operating system in a re-packaged way from a community based, untrusted source. nothing against you, nio, you appear trustworthy - but i`m one of those.
if all the community efforts had been put into the kernel fix instead of fake pae or building alternative installation methods , then we would not sit here and discuss. it may be a logical step, that these workaround exist, but it`s always better to adress the root cause instead of tempering with a symptom. it was good work to provide those workarounds, but it would be even better work to integrate the kernel fix from upstream now and help bugging the ubuntu devs to do so. while writing this, i bet the kernel based fix had probably alrady being done if the community workarounds never existed, because while they existed the ubuntu devs could lean back and tell the user: Pentium M? naah, that`s old, watch out for fake-pae and alternative installer disks as a workaround. that probably HELPED a LOT of users but it did not help fixing the root cause, because many users never needed to complain because of that. linux people like tinkering...oh yes. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kernel Packages, which is subscribed to linux in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/930447 Title: Unable to start Ubuntu 12.04 live CD with syslinux loader on Pentium M x86 Laptop due to bug in PAE kernel, initramfs or syslinux Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “syslinux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Triaged Bug description: Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't start from Desktop CD or USB with syslinux boot loader on Pentium M 1.6Ghz or faster Pentium M CPU - displays error message about missing PAE feature in CPU, but *the same* *Ubuntu 12.04* Desktop CD/LiveUSB starts fine on *the same CPU* (and same PAE kernel) if GRUB boot loader is used, for example when WUBI or LiveUSB with GRUB boot loader, like Multisystem (http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install ) is used! The error message is: "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for you CPU." THIS IS AN IMPORTANT REGRESSION! People are able to install and successfully use Ubuntu 12.04 on such pretty new hardware, like IBM Thinkpad T42 laptop with Pentium M 1700Mhz processor, but the bug in syslinux (or something related) forbids Ubuntu 12.04 installation. This bug is reproducible on lots of computers, there are several log files and /proc/cpuinfo file attached to this bugreport, AFAIK it's enough to reopen this bug. --- ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu4 Architecture: i386 CurrentDmesg: Error: command ['sh', '-c', 'dmesg | comm -13 --nocheck-order /var/log/dmesg -'] failed with exit code 1: comm: /var/log/dmesg: Permission denied MachineType: IBM 2373PPU dmi.bios.date: 06/18/2007 dmi.bios.vendor: IBM dmi.bios.version: 1RETDRWW (3.23 ) dmi.board.name: 2373PPU dmi.board.vendor: IBM dmi.board.version: Not Available dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: IBM dmi.chassis.version: Not Available dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnIBM:bvr1RETDRWW(3.23):bd06/18/2007:svnIBM:pn2373PPU:pvrThinkPadT42:rvnIBM:rn2373PPU:rvrNotAvailable:cvnIBM:ct10:cvrNotAvailable: dmi.product.name: 2373PPU dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T42 dmi.sys.vendor: IBM To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/930447/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages Post to : kernel-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kernel-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp