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Title:
Issues with Thunderbolt in initrd: Devices recognized but not working
Status in cryptsetup package in Ubuntu:
Confirmed
Status in initrd-tools package in Ubuntu:
Confirmed
Status in plymouth package in Ubuntu:
Confirmed
Status in thunderbolt-tools package in Ubuntu:
Confirmed
Bug description:
I'm facing an issue with Thunderbolt in initrd on a Lenovo ThinkPad
Yoga X1 Gen8 in conjunction with the Lenovo Thunderbolt 3 Dock (40AN,
Gen 2) when using Ubuntu 24 with Kernel 6.8 and 6.11.
Cross-checking the same Dock and the same SSD within another Laptop
(older HP ProBook 450 G6 with only USB 3.2 support, no Thunderbolt)
proofs my suspicion that the hardware works fine but it is some
software related issue.
Step to Step:
Up on starting the Laptop, USB generic drivers are loaded and the Dock is
recognized.
The Dock works flawlessly in pre-boot environments such as UEFI and GRUB with
the loaded USB generic driver.
As soon as GRUB is attempting to start the selected system and initrd is
loaded for the later prompt of the LUKS passphrase, I recognize the USB generic
drivers are loaded once more and the devices are being initialized as USB
devices.
After that, the USB connection seems to be "dropped" due to the Docks
Thunderbolt capability being recognized which causes initrd to load the
Thunderbolt module, which is prompted onscreen:
thunderbolt 1-0:1.1: new retimer found, vendor ...
thunderbolt 1-1: new device found, vendor ...
thunderbolt 1-1: Lenovo ThinkPad Thunderbolt 3 Dock
As soon as the Thunderbolt module is loaded the devices connected to
the Dock shut off: Monitors turn blank, Keyboard backlights and Mouse
status indicator LEDs turn off. I also assume the power supply to the
laptop via the same cable connection is dropped, as the Status LED of
the Dock is turning off, but do not know for sure.
This causes that only Monitors or Keyboards directly connected to the
Laptop via USB or HDMI will work for the stage of entering the LUKS
passphrase (the internal Monitor and Keyboard obviously do work as
intended -> which are directly connected via USB generic and not
Thunderbolt).
Deactivating Thunderbolt in the UEFI of the Lenovo machine proofs my
assumption again: The Dock works flawlessly in UEFI, GRUB as well as
the initrd/LUKS passphrase/plymouth environment as it is now acting as
USB device.
I suspect a faulty implementation of the Thunderbolt Module or Security
Policies prohibiting its use:
As soon as the LUKS passphrase is entered correct and the system starts to
load, the Thunderbolt module seem to be loaded new again and from that moment
on work properly: The Status LED of the Dock goes on and all devices connected
light up again - all while still loading modules (way before the Login screen
appears).
That is why I first was hoping for the best case of security policies
blocking Thunderbolt I/O in the initrd/LUKS passphrase/plymouth stage,
but I found no documentation if there is such and how to change that
policy which drives me to the conclusion that it is more likely a bug.
I also did not find any workaround to drop Thunderbolt for initrd and
set USB generic drivers only, which would help a lot until this bug is
fixed.
Here is some similar report that the issue exists since Kernel 5.4, but they
did not have the same conclusion/mentioning of USB-generic drivers vs.
Thunderbolt drivers:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1901215
Previous Stackexchange Ubuntu post by me regarding this behavior:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1534913/issues-with-thunderbolt-and-initramfs-in-ubuntu-24-devices-assume-blocked
Another Users similar report:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1516595/lenovo-docks-not-recognized-in-initramfs-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-24-04
Thanks for your help
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ProblemType: Bug
ApportVersion: 2.28.1-0ubuntu3.3
Architecture: amd64
CasperMD5CheckResult: pass
CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04
InstallationDate: Installed on 2024-11-13 (81 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS "Noble Numbat" - Release amd64
(20240827.1)
NonfreeKernelModules: zfs
Package: thunderbolt-tools
PackageArchitecture: amd64
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.11.0-1013.13-oem 6.11.0
Tags: noble wayland-session
Uname: Linux 6.11.0-1013-oem x86_64
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
UserGroups: adm cdrom dip lpadmin plugdev sudo users
_MarkForUpload: True
cmdline: BOOT_IMAGE=/BOOT/ubuntu_n3gtoe@/vmlinuz-6.11.0-1013-oem
root=ZFS=rpool/ROOT/ubuntu_n3gtoe ro text
crypttab: dm_crypt-0 PARTUUID=dbc7a221-c205-4222-a072-098993c914f7
/dev/urandom swap,initramfs,cipher=aes-xts-plain64:sha256,size=512,plain
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