Stathis Kamperis wrote: > 2010/9/28 Rumko <[email protected]>: >> Stathis Kamperis wrote: >> >>> 2010/9/28 Sdävtaker <[email protected]>: >>>> What i tried to sai about history was that user usage should be >>>> measured in a different bag than the history that the user usage >>>> generated. >>>> Sorry if it was not clear, english is not my main language and i use >>>> to fail time to time. :-/ >>>> Damian >>>> >>> >>> I kind of agree. >>> >>> Why "punish" user for something that s/he is not able to control >>> directly ? Even more, the user may not be aware of the underlying >>> filesystem's technicalities (how it retains history and so on). >>> >>> Better come up with something else. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Stathis >> >> Not punishing that user means punishing the whole system and everything >> depending on that system. And as I said before, it's user's data, so who >> should be punished if not the user? The user can always tell the admin that >> he does not any history at all or how much history he needs, so it's purely >> that user's responsibility ... his data, his rules, his reponsibility. >> [...] > > Ok, fine. I'm not strongly opinionated on this. I'm just thinking from > the Josephine perspective, who may not (or even want to) know how her > file-system operates.
Then that user's home dir can be nohistory and there is no problem? If she doesn't need multiple copies of her data, then I see no reason why to keep that data. But if she wants n snapshots/backups then there should be a limit on how much total space she can take. Otherwise we could just display du -h of her home dir when she logs in and it would be about as useful at limiting her disk usage, so there would be no point to a quota ;) On purpose she could bring down the whole system at will even though she was "limited", but unfortunately she could do it unknowingly as well (downloading flash videos, powerpoint jokes, maybe a movie or two, etc. over and over and rewriting the old files). > But if we go this route, then we should also provide history retention > statistics to user-land utilities, such as df(1). > > Imagine the confusion of a user that types 'df', sees that the quota > threshold hasn't been reached, yet she is denied further disk storage > allocation. Agreed, now we just need to find someone to do it :P > Best regards, > Stathis -- Please do not CC me, since I already receive everything from these MLs. Regards, Rumko
