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From: Ryan Heise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, July 18, 1999 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JOS-Kernel] Construction of a new Java Operating System
>Cliff Baeseman wrote:
>
>> I am personally involved in building
>> something similar to JOS but I am using a hacked version of the linux
kernel
>> to do it. I almost have the system running now and am testing some
desktop
>> stuff on it. The speed is exceptional and above that of sun's own
javaos.
>> I intend to fully hide anything that even resembles unix to include the
file
>> system.
>
>Cool. How are you handling the graphics side? What sort of changes have
>you made to the kernel? etc.?
Grapics is implemented by a bare minimum X implementation running all native
code.
>
>JOS consists of a small amount of native code at the core and a large
>chunk of Java code providing most operating system facilities. These
>Java libraries could run on top of different kernels, and in fact, the
>JOS project has at least two kernels in development. Your kernel is yet
>another kernel that could support the JOS libraries. You are free to use
>them.
It would be nice to do this but my kernel is all native linux. I run the
linux drivers none of my own.
There is little benifit to running java drivers it just kills performance.
>
>What appeals to me about your kernel is that it is licensed under the
>GPL. There are some people lurking around the mailing lists who have not
>contributed yet because they only feel comfortable contributing to free
>software. If you worked with the JOS project, those people could finally
>get their hands on something, which is also good for you.
hmm. It seems most of the JOS project developers are not interested in my
implementation. The JOS team lacks the one thing it needs to be successful.
"Development Velocity!"
They have been at it for almost two years and have nothing running, this
will not attract developers. Open Source developers like progress. I am
working another project now and we have 80 very active developers. We
attracted this mainy due to the speed of our progress and willingness to
communicate with team members.
>
>I am puzzled that nobody has replied to your email yet. Where are all
>you free software people!
>
Not sure not to many people are interested I guess. I will gear up the
project in the very near future if
there is enough interest. Unfortunately I will do it seperate from the JOS
project. It lacks all of the things necessary for success. "Developers"
Sorry for my JOS negativity but I cannot see it succeeding. They wish to
talk more about politics then the code. The first person to implement a Java
OS will be the one who holds the pie no matter what it's powered by. In my
application you are never even going to know Linux is running underneath
except for the blazing speed.
Cliff Baeseman
>--
>Ryan Heise
>
>http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/~rheise/
>
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