Hello all,
First, I'm moving this discussion over to the admin list. Please
direct your followups there.
On 19 Dec 99, at 18:42, John Leuner wrote:
> > I got a news from Other Mailing List. It seems that there is a web site
>providing
> > a management solution for open source software. its web site is
> > http://www.sourceforge.com.
> I've had a good look at it, it's excellent. I have released my JVM,
> They provide mailing lists, web space, FTP space, management of multiple
> developers etc etc.
I think it looks really nice too. There are many things that still
need to be worked on (that's why its still a 0.x release) but there's
a lot of power already in place, and many promising developments
on the way. Definitely something we should keep our eyes on.
For JOS, I see two potential stumbling blocks.
First, we'll need to get the wiki ported in order to move the entire
site over to sourceforge. We certainly can just host what
sourceforge offers (CVS, ftp, etc) at sourceforge and keep the wiki
on a separate server. However, linking everything together with a
single user id would make it worth it to port. The main impediment
to this right now is sourceforge is very new, and they haven't
designed a way for us to access the session and user login
information from sourceforge accounts yet. It's on their "to do" list
though. I've been following the discussion and will try and stay up
to date on this feature.
Second, sourceforge is designed to host a group of single product
projects. We actually should try setting up a separate sourceforge
system for jos, where the projects in the JOSSourceForge are all
related to JOS. This should be possible when sourceforge
releases their source (which, from the discussions on their site,
should be "real soon now").
The advantages being, a nice, tight integration of JOS and its
applications. The disadvantages being we have to setup and
maintain a sourceforge clone. I like this solution best though as
we can perhaps do some fund raising with such a site (advertizing
or becoming amazon.com resellers) to help offset some of the
costs JOS members are currently shouldering.
The alternative is porting wiki to work in sourceforge, and using
sourceforge as hosted at valinux. This way, va linux shoulders the
costs and pain of setting up and maintaining the site. We then let
all the jos projects basically splinter and form their own little
sourceforge projects and then do something like a web ring to link
them all under the JOS "umbrella". A lot less work and will get
things done sooner rather than later. It seems like an "ugly"
solution though.
Are there other alternatives I'm not seeing?
Oh, and this is not to say sourceforge is THE solution, but we
basically have to do something like a SourceForge on our own (the
self hosting option) or try and use someone else's free/inexpensive
service (the "use SourceForge" option). There are other services
like SourceForge out there... but none that I've seen so far that look
as promising.
I was working on my own version of a site like SourceForge for the
next version of the JOS website, but now that I've seen what
SourceForge does (which is almost exactly what I had in mind
anyhow) I'm thinking that one way or the other, we might as well
use SourceForge (either on our own site or using their service).
Opinions?
-iain
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