On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 08:20:57 +0000,
  "\"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\"" <[email protected]> wrote:

On 11/01/2013 06:23 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Bruno Wolff III<[email protected]>  wrote:
Has F20 slipped enough that now it is practical to release with a 3.12
kernel?
No.  We'd have to ship Beta with 3.12 for any of us to be remotely
comfortable with that, and shoving that in a week before Beta (and
getting a freeze exception for it) isn't going to happen.

So you consider a zero day update to the GA is somewhat better then the testing the kernel would receive between beta and final?

There is an advantage to doing a zero day update in that the media is less likely to be unusable by people if it uses a kernel that received wider testing. If the 3.12 kernel fails, they can fall back to using 3.11 fairly easily.

There isn't anything that requires 3.12 to go out as a zero day update. We could wait until the release to put it in update-testing so it would get wider testing before being pushed as an update.
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