On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 1:30 PM Laura Abbott <labb...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > > I also think there are other perspectives that might at least > > potentially be useful here. Right now we've mainly heard from a couple > > of community folks who are very passionate about btrfs, and Red Hat > > folks from anaconda/kernel development and RHEL management who > > essentially see it as a burden that is not aligned with their > > priorities. Is that all the perspectives we have to make a decision > > with? I think we should at least talk to the Facebook team that > > apparently uses btrfs on Fedora extensively about whether they'd be sad > > to see installer btrfs support die and, if so, whether they'd perhaps > > be interested in helping support it. And more broadly, community folks > > on all the lists this is going to: are there more people who actually > > are interested in this functionality and would be sad to see it go? If > > btrfs isn't a part of Red Hat's product roadmaps but is important to > > lots of folks in the wider Fedora community, maybe that's another > > indicator we can use....or indeed, if it turns out not many folks > > actually care. > > As an on the record btrfs skeptic, I think it would help to have an > end-to-end picture of what's missing or needs to be added across all > packages. If someone comes to me today and says "I want to help btrfs be > successful in Fedora", I'd like to know where to point them besides just > suggesting they get added on the btrfs kernel alias.
Forgive me, but I had missed this in the sea of other messages (this thread is long and crazy now!). The Fedora Btrfs folks over the past few years have implemented the following: * Developed a DNF plugin to invoke snapper correctly for full system snapshots * Ported over the change set from SUSE to the Fedora grub2 package to support btrfs boot to snapshot * Fixed grubby to handle snapshot menu items for grub (this is kind of deprecated with BLS, though) The things that I'm looking to do: * Develop a libdnf plugin to replace the existing DNF snapper plugin (so that PackageKit is also covered) * Adapt the boot to snapshot stuff to use BLS (with boom, presumably?) The things I've been pushing off (for obvious reasons): * Enable Anaconda to allow /boot to be a btrfs subvolume (PR is in limbo...) * Ensure Anaconda configures snapper automatically when btrfs rootfs is selected * Design a sensible default btrfs layout (perhaps based on the current openSUSE one?) The mid-/long-term things I'm thinking of: * Consideration of moving the rpmdb to /usr/lib/sysimage/rpm (unifying standard Fedora and OSTree Fedora...) * A libdnf plugin to implement atomic package management using btrfs snapshots (like transactional-update, except done properly...) That's basically the full scope of the Btrfs enablement work I've planned right now. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list -- kernel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to kernel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kernel@lists.fedoraproject.org
