On 03/24/2012 11:53 PM, lajos kamocsay wrote:
> Hi Dick-
>
>
> Thanks for pushing me for a better solution. I spent some more time
> going through the drawpanel/frame code and found a much nicer way to
> do the panning with the same functions that autopan and many of the
> zoom functions use.
>
> The key is this pretty cool function:
> EDA_DRAW_FRAME::AdjustScrollBars. It does all the limit checking and
> optimizes the scroll bar size, so I didn't have to duplicate all that
> logic.
>
> The attached patch (diff from revno 3477) adds middle button panning
> to eeschema, cvpcb module viewer, pcbnew and gerbview.
>
>
> Thanks-
> -lajos

-lajos,

I see you found a solution to the limitless dragging option, but not the 
bounded cookie
tray option that I described.

Using your mode does not recognize the boundary of the cookie tray, and reduces 
the
scrollbar handle size proportional to the travel outside the cookie tray.

I was hoping you would support at least the mode which recognizes the cookie 
tray
boundary, so we could compare.

The reducing scrollbar handle size is a way to address the discontinuity, but 
also means
the playground becomes needlessly large, seemingly irreversibly for that 
session.

Do zoom levels factor into the usability of the mode I described, twice now?

Why did you not code it that way [too]?

Are you making a statement, or simply ran out of time?

Dick




>
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:50 PM, lajos kamocsay <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> OK, makes sense. I should have time to work on it this weekend, I'll
>> post my progress.
>>
>> Thanks-
>> -lajos
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Dick Hollenbeck <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 03/23/2012 09:58 AM, lajos kamocsay wrote:
>>>> Hi Dick-
>>>>
>>>> I wish I checked my email more often... last night I already started
>>>> on extending the scroll region similar to what auto pan does. Your
>>>> suggestion of locking the cursor on limits would be a faster solution.
>>>>
>>>> Do you want me to continue with extending the region, or would you
>>>> rather me just lock the cursor as you described?
>>>>
>>>> By the way I wasn't implementing anything with ctrl/shift, I was just
>>>> referring to behavior of the mouse wheel scrolling function, that's
>>>> already in kicad (ctrl+wheel scrolls one axis, shift+wheel the other).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks-
>>>> -lajos
>>> -lajos
>>>
>>> My only concern about extending beyond the scrollbar limits is you impart a 
>>> discontinuity
>>> when the user switches back to the scroll bar with the mouse, under 
>>> circumstances of
>>> having travelled beyond the scrollbar limits.  Then moves back into the 
>>> normal range.
>>> This concern is what directed my original thinking.
>>>
>>> Maybe you have a solution for this.  If you have something you really like, 
>>> or want to
>>> offer TWO solutions, controlled with an
>>>
>>> #ifdef
>>>
>>> your patch can also simply do it both ways.  We can manually supply the 
>>> #define for
>>> testing, don't think its worth the time to put that #define in the 
>>> CMakeLists.txt
>>> configuration yet, or ever.    I don't think this raises to the level "we 
>>> need to support
>>> both ways long term".  We will probably come to a conclusion on which is 
>>> best and stick
>>> with one.
>>>
>>> If you still have a lot of work on the harder one you mention, then maybe 
>>> skip it.
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Dick Hollenbeck <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> -lajos
>>>>>
>>>>> You might not drink milk, here is a better metaphor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Put a rectangular cookie tray on the table.  Place a rectangular cutting 
>>>>> board in side the cookie tray.  Tell the cookie tray to never rotate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jam a thumbtack anywhere into the cutting board.  Move it around the 
>>>>> interior of the cookie tray, it never rotates, but can hit one or both 
>>>>> walls.  Your thumbtack never moves, it is your handle.  You release the 
>>>>> middle mouse button, the thumbtack comes out, you can move it and 
>>>>> re-insert it anywhere on the cutting board and try again.
>>>>>
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I know you eat cookies.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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