I agree with you, Adam! There is a limit to the baby-sitting of users. It looks fine as is, but a background image with low contrast showing part of a PCB layout would be awesome.
Just my $0.02, Jean-Paul AC9GH > On Dec 24, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Adam Wolf <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks Nick! This really helps. > > OS X folks: should I include some text in the background saying "Drag the > icons to their destinations" or something like that? It looks like about > half of the ones I found on a quick google search do that. > > I am personally slightly against it, but willing to change my mind. (The > first two entries in the README are "Installing" and "Upgrading".) > > Adam Wolf > > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2014, 10:49 AM Nick Østergaard <[email protected]> wrote: > Den 24/12/2014 16.00 skrev "Adam Wolf" <[email protected]>: > > > > > > Maybe the bold font didn't install right. When I tried to install all > > three, I got an OS X warning about some font properties. I will remove the > > two nonbold and only install the bold variant. I am traveling today for > > the holidays, but I will get a new one up soon. > > > Ok, bit strange, I can provide a SVG where the font is converted to paths, > such that you don't need to mess with that. > > Find it attached. > > > Any thoughts about the arrows or the rest of it? I looked at a google > > image search of "dmg installation background" and tried to make an arrow in > > proportion to what looked typical. I added a gradient, but I can easily > > remove it. We're working on a subtle circuit board background to add some > > life to it, but that will be a few dayswith the holidays. > > I think new arrows with the gradient looks great. Som PCB related background > would look good. > > > Also, the window size will be made exactly the right size to match the > > background--I eyed it for this but found a way to make it exact. > > > > Adam Wolf > > Cofounder and Engineer > > Wayne and Layne > > Adam Wolf > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2014, 3:24 AM Nick Østergaard <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Looks much nicer with the arrows. > >> > >> The logo is better, but a little nitpicking. The text does not look > >> quite right according to the image I linked earlier. Are you sure you > >> did not edit the string properties? To me it looks like it is not bold > >> any more, that could be the only thing. The orange dot will then align > >> more properly up with the i, and the Cad part will not touch the blue > >> box. At least I get an image pretty much like your, when I make it > >> non-bold. > >> > >> 2014-12-24 3:38 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf <[email protected]>: > >> > An update with more appropriate arrows and the correct font! :) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Adam Wolf > >> > <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Thanks. That first response by me really made me sound grumpy--I wish I > >> >> could unsend it! > >> >> > >> >> I think the drag and drop is good for nightlies, but if we make a > >> >> package > >> >> and put it in the App Store, we get around the issues from drag and > >> >> drop, as > >> >> long as we follow Apple policy on where to put stufff (which I think we > >> >> do, > >> >> thanks to Bernhard and all the other OS X Kicad devs scattered > >> >> throughout > >> >> time and space). > >> >> > >> >> I expect there will be discussion and certainly some modification s > >> >> after > >> >> the next progress update, but then I am going to ask Wayne what he > >> >> wants me > >> >> to work on next for packaging -- Windows, some Linux, or pursue getting > >> >> Kicad into the Mac App Store (for free of course) so Mac folks can > >> >> install > >> >> the upcoming "stable" versions through the App Store. > >> >> > >> >> Adam Wolf > >> >> Cofounder and Engineer > >> >> W&L > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014, 4:11 PM Martijn Kuipers > >> >> <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi Adam, and others, > >> >>> > >> >>> I myself several years ago tried a OS X package and know the pain it > >> >>> gives. I think the Drag & Drop you have is fine. > >> >>> > >> >>> If you want to do more interesting things, then I would like to > >> >>> suggest a > >> >>> program called Packages > >> >>> (http://s.sudre.free.fr/Software/Packages/about.html). > >> >>> It should even allow to add multiple bundles and have the user choose > >> >>> what to install. > >> >>> > >> >>> Although I am not sure how to incorporate that into a cake-build, but I > >> >>> guess we have some of the most knowledgeable cmake-builders (people) on > >> >>> board. > >> >>> > >> >>> Adam, please do not take this as a complaint. I think the work you have > >> >>> done for OS X users is excellent. I just happen to stumble upon this > >> >>> and > >> >>> think it might be of help, alleviating some of your pains ;-) > >> >>> > >> >>> Anyway, to you and the entire KiCad list: A Merry Christmas and thanks > >> >>> for KiCad. > >> >>> > >> >>> /Martijn > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On 23 Dec 2014, at 21:27, Adam Wolf <[email protected]> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks! Great eye! > >> >>> > >> >>> Adam Wolf > >> >>> Cofounder and Engineer, > >> >>> W&L > >> >>> > >> >>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Nick Østergaard <[email protected]> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> 2014-12-23 22:03 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf <[email protected]>: > >> >>>> > I think Lorenzo made that image. I am not sure if it is the logo we > >> >>>> > want to > >> >>>> > go with, but I found the SVG inside of bitmaps_png/source or > >> >>>> > something > >> >>>> > and > >> >>>> > dragged it into Inkscape. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Aha! I did not notive that. But the reason the logo you have looks odd > >> >>>> is becuase you don't have the "original" font, which is Tiresias > >> >>>> LPfont. I can be found on http://www.tiresias.org/fonts/lpfont.zip if > >> >>>> it is of interest. Seems to be a GPL font, I did not really read the > >> >>>> copying note. Also note that curl and wget fails on that URL, > >> >>>> downloading with a browser works fine. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > I definitely think we need to change the arrowheads, both in size > >> >>>> > and > >> >>>> > not > >> >>>> > being pure black--they are very harsh. I also think that we might > >> >>>> > want to > >> >>>> > investigate what a nice subtle texture background looks like too. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > http://subtlepatterns.com/ > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > I will take a stab at a better set of backgrounds in soon, and also > >> >>>> > I > >> >>>> > will > >> >>>> > make my script use an svg from the source, I think, so that anyone > >> >>>> > with > >> >>>> > commit access can update the svg and it'll show up in the next day's > >> >>>> > package. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > Adam Wolf > >> >>>> > Cofounder and Engineer > >> >>>> > W&L > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Nick Østergaard <[email protected]> > >> >>>> > wrote: > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> 2014-12-23 21:08 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf > >> >>>> >> <[email protected]>: > >> >>>> >> > I do not think I ever got connected with Miguel enough to get a > >> >>>> >> > working > >> >>>> >> > login to the server. If you have access, I can give you an ssh > >> >>>> >> > public > >> >>>> >> > key > >> >>>> >> > that you can add to a user. > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> I don't have login access to the machine itself, just the Jenkins > >> >>>> >> interface. > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > Also, sneak peek. (I am not a graphics guy, but I whipped this > >> >>>> >> > up > >> >>>> >> > as a > >> >>>> >> > barebones example.) > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> Looks great to me, although I think those arrowheads are massive > >> >>>> >> comared to the arrow line part. And the KiCad logo looks odd to me, > >> >>>> >> compared to: > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> http://www.kicad-pcb.org/download/attachments/589828/kicad_logo.png?version=1&modificationDate=1334481453000&api=v2 > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> But I am not really sure where the original vectorized version is, > >> >>>> >> I > >> >>>> >> think it was Lorenzo that made it, is that right? > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > Adam Wolf > >> >>>> >> > Cofounder and Engineer > >> >>>> >> > W&L > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Nick Østergaard > >> >>>> >> > <[email protected]> > >> >>>> >> > wrote: > >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> 2014-12-23 19:14 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf > >> >>>> >> >> <[email protected]>: > >> >>>> >> >> > Hi Nick, > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> > I have a jenkins system here--I can upload my build artifacts > >> >>>> >> >> > to > >> >>>> >> >> > the > >> >>>> >> >> > Kicad > >> >>>> >> >> > Jenkins though. I would prefer not to make my system be a > >> >>>> >> >> > direct > >> >>>> >> >> > build > >> >>>> >> >> > slave > >> >>>> >> >> > for security reasons. > >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> Ok, this is fair enough. > >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> But did Miguel ever get around to give you the access to get the > >> >>>> >> >> automated uploads working? > >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > I was out sick all last week with a 102F fever, but this > >> >>>> >> >> > weekend > >> >>>> >> >> > I > >> >>>> >> >> > updated > >> >>>> >> >> > my script to build a good Kicad footprints dmg. I think the > >> >>>> >> >> > last > >> >>>> >> >> > thing > >> >>>> >> >> > left > >> >>>> >> >> > before the next status update is setting KIGITHUB. I tested > >> >>>> >> >> > it > >> >>>> >> >> > and > >> >>>> >> >> > it > >> >>>> >> >> > works > >> >>>> >> >> > well, but I need to do it automatically. > >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> Ok, get well soon. Good to hear you are still progressing. > >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> > Adam Wolf > >> >>>> >> >> > Cofounder and Engineer > >> >>>> >> >> > W&L > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Nick Østergaard > >> >>>> >> >> > <[email protected]> > >> >>>> >> >> > wrote: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> Hello Adam > >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> I see that your builds is not added to the Jenkins running on > >> >>>> >> >> >> ci.kicad-pcb.org. I want to see that happen, and Miguel gave > >> >>>> >> >> >> me > >> >>>> >> >> >> rights > >> >>>> >> >> >> on Jenkins some time ago. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> So if you are ready to set this up, it should be straight > >> >>>> >> >> >> forward to > >> >>>> >> >> >> add a slave node (your OSX machine). All it takes is jave on > >> >>>> >> >> >> the > >> >>>> >> >> >> slave, and a SSH connection. Jenkins copies a jar to the > >> >>>> >> >> >> slave > >> >>>> >> >> >> where > >> >>>> >> >> >> jenkins operate from. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> It can be used with a username and password, or via SSH > >> >>>> >> >> >> keys. I > >> >>>> >> >> >> tried > >> >>>> >> >> >> both with the fedora20 connection. Seems to work nicely. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> Basically what is needed for the SSH key method, that is a > >> >>>> >> >> >> private > >> >>>> >> >> >> key > >> >>>> >> >> >> on the master and the public key in the authorized_keys file > >> >>>> >> >> >> on > >> >>>> >> >> >> the > >> >>>> >> >> >> relevant user on the slave. I guess it is best to have a > >> >>>> >> >> >> dedicated > >> >>>> >> >> >> user on the box for the kicad build, just for seperation of > >> >>>> >> >> >> access > >> >>>> >> >> >> to > >> >>>> >> >> >> the filesystem. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> The jenkins job is just invoking commands on the shell, so if > >> >>>> >> >> >> you > >> >>>> >> >> >> already have a script to do the work, I can just call that > >> >>>> >> >> >> from > >> >>>> >> >> >> jenkins, and you can easily maintain it. I think. Maybe some > >> >>>> >> >> >> catches > >> >>>> >> >> >> for errors is needed for proper buildfailure detection. > >> >>>> >> >> >> Otherwise I > >> >>>> >> >> >> guess I can give you rights on the master. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> Regards > >> >>>> >> >> >> Nick Østergaard > >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> 2014-10-30 15:01 GMT+01:00 Adam Wolf > >> >>>> >> >> >> <[email protected]>: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Hi folks, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Things are progressing very well on the OS X packaging > >> >>>> >> >> >> > front! > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Every time bzr is updated for lp:kicad, a Mac build is > >> >>>> >> >> >> > generated, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > and > >> >>>> >> >> >> > every > >> >>>> >> >> >> > night, a clean build is generated and packaged as a dmg. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Miguel > >> >>>> >> >> >> > is > >> >>>> >> >> >> > working > >> >>>> >> >> >> > on fixing my SSH credentials on the server, so I can push > >> >>>> >> >> >> > the > >> >>>> >> >> >> > build > >> >>>> >> >> >> > logs > >> >>>> >> >> >> > and > >> >>>> >> >> >> > dmgs. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > I've done my best to script a dmg creator that matches what > >> >>>> >> >> >> > end-users > >> >>>> >> >> >> > expect > >> >>>> >> >> >> > from downloaded Mac applications. I think it is very good > >> >>>> >> >> >> > at > >> >>>> >> >> >> > this > >> >>>> >> >> >> > point. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > You can see an image of what it looks like inside one of > >> >>>> >> >> >> > these > >> >>>> >> >> >> > dmgs, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > attached to this email. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > The build log is included with every package, and also will > >> >>>> >> >> >> > be > >> >>>> >> >> >> > uploaded > >> >>>> >> >> >> > next > >> >>>> >> >> >> > to every package, so that you don't have to download the > >> >>>> >> >> >> > entire > >> >>>> >> >> >> > package > >> >>>> >> >> >> > to > >> >>>> >> >> >> > see a build log. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > The package is currently around 200 megs. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > The README is dynamically generated at package time. A > >> >>>> >> >> >> > sample one > >> >>>> >> >> >> > follows. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Please let me know if you have any additions or > >> >>>> >> >> >> > suggestions: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > KiCad > >> >>>> >> >> >> > ===== > >> >>>> >> >> >> > KiCad is an EDA software suite for the creation of > >> >>>> >> >> >> > professional > >> >>>> >> >> >> > schematics > >> >>>> >> >> >> > and printed circuit boards up to 32 copper layers. KiCad > >> >>>> >> >> >> > runs > >> >>>> >> >> >> > on > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Windows, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Linux and OS X and is released under the open-source GNU > >> >>>> >> >> >> > GPL > >> >>>> >> >> >> > v2 > >> >>>> >> >> >> > free > >> >>>> >> >> >> > of > >> >>>> >> >> >> > charge. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > With KiCad you can create schematic diagrams and printed > >> >>>> >> >> >> > circuit > >> >>>> >> >> >> > board > >> >>>> >> >> >> > up to > >> >>>> >> >> >> > 32 copper layers. KiCad comes with a rich set of libraries > >> >>>> >> >> >> > with 3D > >> >>>> >> >> >> > models as > >> >>>> >> >> >> > well. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > KiCad is a mature EDA software tool under active > >> >>>> >> >> >> > development > >> >>>> >> >> >> > by a > >> >>>> >> >> >> > team > >> >>>> >> >> >> > of > >> >>>> >> >> >> > developers and a vibrant user group. KiCad team counts > >> >>>> >> >> >> > three > >> >>>> >> >> >> > main > >> >>>> >> >> >> > developers > >> >>>> >> >> >> > and a dozen of regular contributors. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Documentation > >> >>>> >> >> >> > ============= > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Documentation is available in this disk image under docs/, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > and is > >> >>>> >> >> >> > available > >> >>>> >> >> >> > online at http://www.kicad-pcb.org/. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Changelog > >> >>>> >> >> >> > ========= > >> >>>> >> >> >> > You can browse the changelog at > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kicad-product-committers/kicad/product/changes. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Reporting Issues > >> >>>> >> >> >> > ================ > >> >>>> >> >> >> > The KiCad developers are working hard to provide quality, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > binary > >> >>>> >> >> >> > releases to > >> >>>> >> >> >> > our users. As of September 2014, the OS X package is under > >> >>>> >> >> >> > heavy, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > active > >> >>>> >> >> >> > development. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > If you encounter issues with this software, please report a > >> >>>> >> >> >> > bug at > >> >>>> >> >> >> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > To help us, please include the details from "About This > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Build" in > >> >>>> >> >> >> > this > >> >>>> >> >> >> > file > >> >>>> >> >> >> > or the name of the download file (kicad-r*.dmg). Please > >> >>>> >> >> >> > also > >> >>>> >> >> >> > include > >> >>>> >> >> >> > the > >> >>>> >> >> >> > output from running the following command in the Terminal: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > sw_vers > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > About This Build > >> >>>> >> >> >> > ================ > >> >>>> >> >> >> > KiCad revision: r5237 > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Packaged on 20143010-034759 > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Packaging script revision: r20 > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Build script revision: r20 > >> >>>> >> >> >> > CMake Settings: -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER=/usr/bin/clang > >> >>>> >> >> >> > -DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER=/usr/bin/clang++ > >> >>>> >> >> >> > -DwxWidgets_CONFIG_EXECUTABLE=../wx-bin/bin/wx-config > >> >>>> >> >> >> > -DKICAD_SCRIPTING=OFF > >> >>>> >> >> >> > -DKICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=OFF > >> >>>> >> >> >> > -DKICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=OFF > >> >>>> >> >> >> > -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=../bin -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > QA/Testing: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > At the moment, I have set up another OS X machine running a > >> >>>> >> >> >> > freshly > >> >>>> >> >> >> > installed 10.10. I haven't installed anything else, and I > >> >>>> >> >> >> > am > >> >>>> >> >> >> > testing > >> >>>> >> >> >> > the > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Kicad packages on there, and then once I have tested them, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > I > >> >>>> >> >> >> > am > >> >>>> >> >> >> > reverting > >> >>>> >> >> >> > the system back to the state as it was "freshly installed." > >> >>>> >> >> >> > This > >> >>>> >> >> >> > is > >> >>>> >> >> >> > not > >> >>>> >> >> >> > ideal at all, but every day these packages aren't available > >> >>>> >> >> >> > is > >> >>>> >> >> >> > another > >> >>>> >> >> >> > day I > >> >>>> >> >> >> > spend 20 minutes replying to people asking me where Mac > >> >>>> >> >> >> > builds are > >> >>>> >> >> >> > :) > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > What's Left: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > * Automated uploads to the website. I poked Miguel about > >> >>>> >> >> >> > this > >> >>>> >> >> >> > recently, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > and > >> >>>> >> >> >> > he says he'll try to get to it today. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > * The current Mac build appears to have some dependencies > >> >>>> >> >> >> > beyond > >> >>>> >> >> >> > what > >> >>>> >> >> >> > we > >> >>>> >> >> >> > include in the bundle. For example, on a freshly installed > >> >>>> >> >> >> > 10.10 > >> >>>> >> >> >> > system > >> >>>> >> >> >> > with this bundle, I cannot open pcbnew. I verified this > >> >>>> >> >> >> > myself. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > A > >> >>>> >> >> >> > tester > >> >>>> >> >> >> > reported to me that he was able to fix it by installing > >> >>>> >> >> >> > brew, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > libpng, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > libpixman, and libfontconfig. I have not verified that fix > >> >>>> >> >> >> > yet. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > The error is: 06:53:16: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > dlopen(/Volumes/Contents/PlugIns/_pcbnew.kiface, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > 10): image not found > >> >>>> >> >> >> > 06:53:16: IO_ERROR: Fatal Installation Bug > >> >>>> >> >> >> > missing file: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > '/Volumes/Contents/PlugIns/_pcbnew.kiface' > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > argv[0]: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > '/Volumes/Kicad/Kicad/pcbnew.app/Contents/MacOS/pcbnew' > >> >>>> >> >> >> > from > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > /Users/jenkins/remoteroot/workspace/KiCadMacBuild/kicad/common/kiway.cpp > >> >>>> >> >> >> > : > >> >>>> >> >> >> > KiFACE() : line 219 > >> >>>> >> >> >> > It appears that it is looking for > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Contents/PlugIns/_pcbnew.kiface > >> >>>> >> >> >> > at > >> >>>> >> >> >> > the > >> >>>> >> >> >> > wrong place, and I am not sure why installing those > >> >>>> >> >> >> > libraries > >> >>>> >> >> >> > would > >> >>>> >> >> >> > fix > >> >>>> >> >> >> > that > >> >>>> >> >> >> > problem. I am going to pull this out into its own email so > >> >>>> >> >> >> > discussion > >> >>>> >> >> >> > of > >> >>>> >> >> >> > this doesn't get merged with other nightly build questions. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > * Including libraries? Not sure about this one. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > What has been done: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > * We redid our build cluster in a way that we could let in > >> >>>> >> >> >> > other > >> >>>> >> >> >> > people, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > and > >> >>>> >> >> >> > not see the rest of the Wayne and Layne internal projects. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > I > >> >>>> >> >> >> > hope > >> >>>> >> >> >> > to > >> >>>> >> >> >> > get > >> >>>> >> >> >> > some more people in the packaging group, and this was a > >> >>>> >> >> >> > crucial > >> >>>> >> >> >> > first > >> >>>> >> >> >> > step. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > * We have an OS X machine for building, and an OS X machine > >> >>>> >> >> >> > for > >> >>>> >> >> >> > testing, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > and > >> >>>> >> >> >> > can restore it to the "freshly installed" state very > >> >>>> >> >> >> > easily. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Thanks, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Adam Wolf > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Cofounder and Engineer > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Post to : [email protected] > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> >>>> >> >> >> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> >>> Post to : [email protected] > >> >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> > Post to : [email protected] > >> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
