thanks Chris, we will definetly take in consideration you inputs. cheers Fabrizio
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Chris Pavlina <pavlina.ch...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 06:14:26AM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > > That's a fair question that I'm not sure I can answer. Can we > > reasonably assume that the user expects the default action to be edit as > > opposed to view or any other action? I just don't know. I do know that > > icons should be reasonable (which is always subject to interpretation) > > metaphors for the action they represent. In this case the metaphors are > > edit a symbol library and edit a footprint library. > > Disclaimer: I haven't looked through the icons yet. I'm at work doing a > bit of > https://xkcd.com/303/ . > > But... I'm strongly opposed to having a bunch of 'pencils' and stuff in the > icons. KiCad has a *lot* of icons, and the priorities of the icon designer > should be to make them 1) unique, and 2) quickly distinguishable from each > other. The icon doesn't have to say *everything*, nobody is going to break > out > a magnifying lens to look at every little thing in the drawing and figure > out > what it does when it's a little picture displaying a centimeter across on > their > monitor. Icons are there for after you have a rough idea of what the tool > does, > to quickly find a target to click on. Adding features like pencils to icons > increases the similarity of different ones, increasing the amount of time > it > takes a user to discern them. It's bad design. > > > > > On 7/6/2016 6:10 AM, Simon Wells wrote: > > > As the normal is edit is there really a need of a pencil icon as > > > opposed to just having the magnifying glass on gerbview as its only a > > > viewer? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <stambau...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> On 7/6/2016 3:20 AM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote: > > >>> Dear All, > > >>> few years have passed since the last main Kicad icon restyling. In my > > >>> opinion, the current icons are serving us quite well except for very > few > > >>> which could use a little face lift. > > >>> > > >>> The few icons that make me particularly itchy are the main Kicad > icons > > >>> for which this very imposing pencil does not play very well. I know > that > > >>> some of your really want a pencil to suggest that those tools are for > > >>> editing. The truth is that now a days icons can be a little more > subtle. > > >>> > > >>> I'd like to propose these new set of icons for the main KiCad > toolbar. > > >>> Please let me know what you think and please if there is anybody who > > >>> wants to help out please, now is the moment. > > >>> > > >>> Cheers > > >>> Fabrizio > > >>> > > >> > > >> Fabrizio, > > >> > > >> The symbol library editor bitmap is too generic. We have two library > > >> editors, a symbol library editor and a footprint library editor. Your > > >> proposed symbol library editor icon is ambiguous (it just an icon for > a > > >> library metaphor). If it had a symbol such as and op-amp superimposed > > >> over the top of the books, that may be more clear. I may also need > some > > >> edit metaphor (such as the pencil in the current icon) as well because > > >> it could be confused as library viewer rather than and editor. > Although > > >> our current icon is also ambiguous. It looks like you are going to > open > > >> a text editor. > > >> > > >> Your footprint library editor icon could be confusing as well. Most > PCB > > >> layout users are familiar with the concept of component footprints. > > >> It's what they do. The human footprint may be more familiar to > > >> non-technical users but I don't think that is relevant for KiCad > users. > > >> There is also no edit metaphor. Perhaps you should use your symbol > > >> library editor icon with a component footprint and some edit metaphor > > >> (pencil?) superimposed over top of it for the footprint library > editor icon. > > >> > > >> Cheers, > > >> > > >> Wayne > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > >> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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