Just going to chip in and say that I agree here, having had students
working with kicad, Its really not obvious what application to use for
what. The cvpcb is unpronouncable in any regard and even harder to
remember. One of the most common questions actually.
- Kristoffer
On 2017-02-02 20:28, Chris Pavlina wrote:
Can I just copy all this and claim I wrote it? It sounds good ;)
On Feb 2, 2017 2:11 PM, "Jon Evans" <j...@craftyjon.com
<mailto:j...@craftyjon.com>> wrote:
As a mostly user and occasional code hacker, here are my thoughts:
The EDA tool industry is trending towards more integration, as many
of the commercial products were originally formed from separate
applications (often from separate companies originally). I have
used a number of commercial products and they are all this way.
Having separate applications with separate lineage makes for
less-than-optimal usability and workflow, and so all the vendors are
trying to move towards integration -- either by putting everything
in a single binary, or more often, keeping multiple binaries, but
branding them together, making sure the UIs look consistent, and
having lots of integration between them so it doesn't feel like a
struggle to go between the different binaries for different parts of
the EDA workflow.
So, I'm in favor of rebranding the KiCad applications, because I
think it's in line with the work you all are doing to improve the
user workflow and improve the integration between the schematic,
layout, and library workflows. I also think it would be good to
include the name change in a "marketing message" to the user
community about a focus on the whole EDA workflow, not separate
applications in silos. Even if you technically can run the
schematic editor separate from the PCB layout tool, if you have the
*mindset* that they are all pieces of the same puzzle and need to
fit together, it can influence the philosophy of the project.
But, as JP mentioned, this would be a big deal in terms of
documentation and resources on the web. I would suggest that the
problems can be overcome, but only if the communications and timing
of the change is handled well.
-Jon
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 1:54 PM, jp charras <jp.char...@wanadoo.fr
<mailto:jp.char...@wanadoo.fr>> wrote:
Le 02/02/2017 à 19:13, Pedro Martin a écrit :
> Hi Chris,
>
> Beginners solve this issue... reading the manual.
>
> Why not keep the actual names only because JP named them this way?
>
> Regards,
> Pedro.
>
Thanks Pedro.
But the major issue which must be taken in account it not that.
Changing names has serious results:
* Documentation and all the translations has to be modified.
Opinion was asked to devs, to users, but not to doc
writers/translators,and this is really not fair.
* Links on Internet cannot be modified, and there are a lot of
hits regarding kicad:
I really agree Cvpcb is not a good name, but just try "Cvpcb" on
Google .
Before changing these names you have to *seriously* think to
the results.
(Think about that not only twice, but 3 times about that)
--
Jean-Pierre CHARRAS
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