Andrey, I agree that those icons also could be improved

However I will wait for sign-off from JP / Wayne before I spend any further
time on this. If they veto this then I would have wasted my time.

Cheers

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandre...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> FYI, the 5th and last icons from the left do not convey what they are
> about.
>
> Perhaps you could add the word "Gerber" at the top portion of the icon and
> remove that stupid magnifying glass.
>
> The worksheet layout shouldn't have a schematic in gray color in it, why
> is there a schematic in an empty worksheet layout editor? It's not a
> schematic editor...
> I'm not sure what the best icon would look like to represent a worksheet
> layout editor.
>
> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Oliver Walters <
> oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have attached a patchset which performs the following:
>>
>> 1. Revert libedit icon to previous version
>> 2. Revert modedit icon to previous version
>> 3. Updates pcbnew icon to look more like a PCB
>> 4. Update colors of eeschema icon
>> 5. Various (almost imperceptible) tweaks to a number of icons to fix
>> graphic alignment issues
>>
>> Here is a screenshot of the updated icons:
>>
>>
>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Walters <
>> oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7 Jan 2018 05:04, "Chris Pavlina" <pavlina.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I wish we had something resembling a policy for icons. It seems like
>>> someone always wants to change them. We had decent icons for these
>>> _before_, and then someone submitted new ones, and they were accepted
>>> because... I don't know? Many of the new icons are really ambiguous and
>>> kind of useless. Shouldn't have been merged.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is why I'm pushing for *a* change and not *my* change, I remember
>>> how the argument went last time, before they were silently merged.
>>>
>>> I also note that there is a lack of consistency between similar icons.
>>> e.g. there are many icons which incorporate an arrow but the style/shape of
>>> the arrows varies.
>>>
>>> For the record, I like these proposed ones. They bring back the ability
>>> to recognize them at a glance.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 05:52:49PM +0000, kristoffer Ödmark wrote:
>>> > I would love to see improved icons, I still never get used to them so
>>> i read
>>> > the tooltip, newer know which one is pcb and which one is module
>>> editor.
>>> >
>>> > Luckily most of the time I only need to double click the kicad_pcb file
>>> > anyway :)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 2018-01-06 15:08, Nick Østergaard wrote:
>>> > > 2018-01-06 14:15 GMT+01:00 Jeff Young <j...@rokeby.ie
>>> > > <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie>>:
>>> > >
>>> > >     +1
>>> > >
>>> > >     And I like Oliver’s proposed icons.  I’d suggest two further
>>> > >     changes though:
>>> > >
>>> > >     1) The schematic icon (which Oliver didn’t change) should really
>>> > >     use the default colours (dark red symbols, green wires).  Then
>>> > >     there’s a stronger tie-in with the libedit icon.
>>> > >
>>> > >     2) I think I’d drop the dimensions from the modedit icon, and
>>> > >     change the pad colour to the default (yellow).
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > The default pad color is not yellow, that is only what you see for
>>> THT
>>> > > pads. Default pad color is green for bottom and red for top copper
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >     3) Projects should use the current New Project icon, rather than
>>> > >     the application icon.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > I have considered to submit a patch for this for some time, but I
>>> guess
>>> > > it is an appropiate time to do this with a major version bump.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >     4) Both the New Project and New Project from Template icons
>>> should
>>> > >     get yellow “new” star.
>>> > >
>>> > >     5) New Footprint in modedit also needs the star, and the star on
>>> > >     New Symbol in libedit made more prominent.
>>> > >
>>> > >     Cheers,
>>> > >     Jeff.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > >     On 6 Jan 2018, at 12:30, Oliver Walters
>>> > > >     <oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com
>>> > > >     <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >     I think there is a need to tweak the libedit and modedit icons,
>>> > > >     as identified below:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >     <Selection_006.png>
>>> > > >
>>> > > >     <Selection_007.png>
>>> > > >
>>> > > >     1. The blue 'textured' background is out of place with the
>>> other
>>> > > >     icons
>>> > > >     2. They are very cluttered and hard to read
>>> > > >     3. Weirdly specific callout of dimensions and part names (out
>>> of
>>> > > >     character with other icons)
>>> > > >
>>> > > >     Further, I think that the pcbnew icon could be adjusted
>>> slightly
>>> > > >     to make it look a bit more like a PCB
>>> > > >
>>> > > >     Even as someone who uses KiCad on a regular basis I find myself
>>> > > >     double checking which icon I am about to click on (and still
>>> > > >     getting it wrong half of the time).
>>> > > >
>>> > > >     Below is a /**suggestion**/ of some improvements. I am not
>>> trying
>>> > > >     to back my own horse here, I'd be happy for anyone else to
>>> > > >     suggest a better design for any of these. But I feel that
>>> > > >     changing these icons would be a good improvement to make before
>>> > > >     the v5 release. There have been many people complaining about
>>> > > >     these icons in particular, both here and on the user forums.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >     <Selection_008.png>
>>> > > >
>>> > > >     Is this a worthwhile endeavor, or are people attached to the
>>> > > >     weird blue icons?
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