Jeff,In your case of moving a part, it would be better to select move tool, move one or more parts, then dismiss to return to routing. In complex boards, routing a trace often involve moving more than one part. Just my two cents after using cad tools for 30 years. Jean-Paul N1JPL
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 10:10 AM, Jeff Young<j...@rokeby.ie> wrote: Hi Wayne, > On 14 Jun 2019, at 14:42, Wayne Stambaugh <stambau...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 6/14/19 7:59 AM, Jeff Young wrote: >> My plan had been to support both two-step (first selects tool; second draws >> object) and immediate (always draws) actions, and let the user assign the >> hotkey to the one they prefer. >> >> But I’m discovering a bunch of things that are unsettling about it. It hard >> to discover if we chose the default option that’s not the one you wanted. >> Which actions does the Place menu show? It kind of has to do a select-tool >> action, but that’s inconsistent if the tool is already selected. And to >> make matters worse, you’d really like to show the immediate hotkeys there >> because that’s the first place people will look. > > This was why I suggested that we have separate hotkey vs menu > accelerator paradigm but that was dismissed. Your statement above > illustrates why they are separate actions. I'm not sure what that > answer is here but we seem no closer to solving the issue. > >> >> Then I had an epiphany: it’s easy enough to distinguish select-tool from >> draw-object contextually (did they use the menu or not?); the real >> differentiator between two-step and immediate is whether or not the tool >> remains selected after the object is drawn. > > How about this? If the previous tool was the select tool, then the > hotkey selected drawing tool remains active until dismissed. If the > previous tool was not the selection tool, do a one shot action and > return to the previously selected tool when the hotkey action is > complete. This would most closely mimic the legacy tool behavior which > a significant number of users seem to prefer. I think I’d find it annoying that it didn’t work the same when the select tool was active. Is there a reason to make it special? Cheers, Jeff. > >> >> So how about if we add a preference for that instead? >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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