Thanks for the suggestion. Rebuilding with an empty build directory did not make any difference.

Tom.

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020, Nick Østergaard wrote:

Tom, did you create a new build dir when switching from gtk2 to gtk3?

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 at 16:32, Mark Roszko <mark.ros...@gmail.com> wrote:
      The change wouldn't be in KiCad. It's the behavior of your window 
manager. Apparently some Linux WMs send mouse events to windows and controls 
without focus and others don't. KiCad traditionally assumed it wouldn't receive 
mouse events without being
      activated.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:33 PM Tom Crane <tpcki...@mklab.ph.rhul.ac.uk> wrote:
      Thanks for the explanation.  I noticed these problems on moving from
      gtk2 to gtk3 builds.  Is this where these changes were made?

      Are there likely to be any user selectable runtime options added to Kicad
      to ameliorate these problems?

      Tom Crane.

      On Thu, 5 Nov 2020, Mark Roszko wrote:

      > Your issues in (1) are by design.
      >
      > Whether that design is correct or not is another story.
      >
      > I actually removed that behavior on Windows because Microsoft has a 
stable api to determine top level window for focus.
      > Linux does not and GDK used to be but with the fragmented x11/wayland 
mess, they removed the api call support to determine top level window.
      >
      > And removing the focus calls instead are going to lead a rabbit hole of 
things not working like hotkeys.
      >
      > On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 9:14 PM Tom Crane <tpcki...@mklab.ph.rhul.ac.uk> 
wrote:
      >       On Thu, 5 Nov 2020, Nick Østergaard wrote:
      >
      >       Thanks again for the quick follow-up.
      >
      >       > Did you install wxpython (phoenix) with pip?
      >       No.
      >
      >       > you have some python stuff in ~/.local.
      >
      >       I have uploaded the modified SlackBuild scripts I used to build 
both the
      >       Slackware wxGTK3 package (wxWidgets/Phoenix) and the wxPython4 
package at
      >       https://www.mklab.rhul.ac.uk/~tom/kicad/SlackBuild/ in case the 
problem
      >       lies with either.
      >
      >       >
      >       > Maybe just try to clear that out completely, or explicitly set 
PYTHONPATH to the site-packages path of your install location?
      >
      >       Just tried removing ~/.local and then,
      >
      >       export PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib64/python3.8/site-packages/
      >
      >       In both cases the scripting console error remains the same.
      >
      >       Thanks
      >       Tom.
      >
      >
      >       >
      >       > On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 20:51, Tom Crane 
<tpcki...@mklab.ph.rhul.ac.uk> wrote:
      >       >       Thanks for the quick response.  In the past I have been 
bitten by old
      >       >       libraries in non-standard places derailing other 
application builds but
      >       >       can't see anything obviously amiss here.
      >       >
      >       >       My $LD_LIBRARY_PATH EV is empty.  I checked where 
ldconfig looks and could
      >       >       not see anything incriminating outside the standard 
install locations for
      >       >       Slackware distros (/usr/lib64 & /lib64).  See
      >       >       https://www.mklab.rhul.ac.uk/~tom/kicad/ldconfig-p.txt 
for the O/P of
      >       >       'ldconfig -p'.
      >       >
      >       >       I also tried stracing open* calls in pcbnew.  See
      >       >       
https://www.mklab.rhul.ac.uk/~tom/kicad/strace-pcbnew2.lis.  Again nothing
      >       >       jumped out as problematic.  All calls to Python related 
files seem to
      >       >       reference python v.3.8 ones as expected.
      >       >
      >       >       The build scripts I am using are release version 
'SlackBuild' scripts I've
      >       >       hacked to use the git development code.  See
      >       >       https://www.mklab.rhul.ac.uk/~tom/kicad/SlackBuild/.  The 
tom_build.sh
      >       >       script calls the main build script kicad-git.SlackBuild.
      >       >
      >       >       Thanks
      >       >       Tom
      >       >
      >       >       On Thu, 5 Nov 2020, Nick Østergaard wrote:
      >       >
      >       >       > Are you using a build script? If so please link it.
      >       >       > Also check if you partially installed in multiple 
locations, sucha as where ldconfig looks and echo LD_LIBRARY_PATH from your runtime env.
      >       >       >
      >       >       > Nicl
      >       >       >
      >       >       > tor. 5. nov. 2020 16.26 skrev Tom Crane 
<tpcki...@mklab.ph.rhul.ac.uk>:
      >       >       >       I have been using recent builds for the past few 
weeks.  They are usable
      >       >       >       but I have a couple of outstanding problems which 
I'm not sure how to
      >       >       >       diagnose/fix.
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       (1) I have strange behaviours with open Kicad 
application windows. For
      >       >       >       example I have a Kicad project, eeschema and 
pcbnew windows open on a
      >       >       >       single display. If I let the mouse pointer move 
from the project window to
      >       >       >       the eeschema or pcbnew window then input focus 
immediately transfers to
      >       >       >       the eeschema or pcbnew window.  This is without 
touching any mouse
      >       >       >       buttons.
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       Similarly moving the mouse pointer back to the 
project window has no
      >       >       >       effect (as it should) but moving it between the 
eeschema and pcbnew
      >       >       >       windows transfers input focus as soon as it 
enters the other window.
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       There is a similar effect when moving between 
unrelated (eg. an xterm)
      >       >       >       windows and either eeschema or pcbnew.  Here the 
eeschema or pcbnew window
      >       >       >       does not receive input focus (which remains with 
the xterm as it should)
      >       >       >       but the eeschema or pcbnew window does move up 
the window 'stack'.  eg. if
      >       >       >       I have an eeschema windows partially covered by a 
pcbnew window, partially
      >       >       >       covered by an xterm window which has input focus, 
then moving the mouse
      >       >       >       pointer from the xterm to an uncovered section of 
the eeschema window will
      >       >       >       cause it to move up the stack and fully cover the 
pcbnew window.
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       I get this behaviour with both accelerated and 
standard graphics set.
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       The above behaviours were observed with the KDE 
desktop.  I get similar
      >       >       >       behaviour with my usual window manager (fvwm95) 
except that the window
      >       >       >       focus never switches.
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       I also find that when invoking the DRC check that 
the DRC Control Window
      >       >       >       disappears immediately after popping-up and has 
to be 're-acquired' by
      >       >       >       clicking the pcbnew tab on the fvwm95 taskbar.  I 
suspect this is another
      >       >       >       facet of these window problems.
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       I don't get this behaviour with any other 
applications but Kicad is the
      >       >       >       only wxWidgets/wxPython based one I currently use 
and so the problem could
      >       >       >       there at the library level rather than within 
Kicad on my
      >       >       >       distro/Kicad+dependencies build.
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       None of this is a show-stopper but it is 
irritating.
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       Any ideas?
      >       >       >
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       (2) I am unable to use any Kicad scripts.  Clicking 
on pcbnew --> Tools
      >       >       >       --> scripting console I get the "Error: unable to 
create Python Console"
      >       >       >       pop-up and the following on the console,
      >       >       >
      >       >       >         Traceback (most recent call last):
      >       >       >          File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
      >       >       >          File 
"/usr/share/kicad/scripting/kicad_pyshell/__init__.py", line 17, in
      >       >       >       <module>
      >       >       >            import wx
      >       >       >          File 
"/usr/lib64/python3.8/site-packages/wx/__init__.py", line 12, in
      >       >       >       <module>
      >       >       >            __version__ = wx.__version__.VERSION_STRING
      >       >       >       AttributeError: partially initialized module 'wx' 
has no attribute
      >       >       >       '__version__' (most likely due to a circular 
import)
      >       >       >
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       I built kicad with Python3 support (see below) so 
it should be using that
      >       >       >       and not Python2 (for which I don't have a 
wxWidgets build) but I suspect
      >       >       >       it might still be calling Python2.
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       Any ideas?
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       Many thanks
      >       >       >       Tom Crane
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       Build details:
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       Application: KiCad
      >       >       >       Version: (5.99.0-6755-g3b10d1583), release build
      >       >       >       Libraries:
      >       >       >            wxWidgets 3.1.4
      >       >       >            libcurl/7.70.0 OpenSSL/1.1.1h zlib/1.2.11 
brotli/1.0.9 libidn2/2.3.0
      >       >       >       libpsl/0.21.1 (+libidn2/2.3.0) libssh2/1.9.0 
nghttp2/1.41.0
      >       >       >       Platform: Linux 5.4.6-mklab x86_64, 64 bit, 
Little endian, wxGTK, ,
      >       >       >       Build Info:
      >       >       >            Date: Nov 2 2020 16:07:07
      >       >       >            wxWidgets: 3.1.4 (wchar_t,wx containers) 
GTK+ 3.24
      >       >       >            Boost: 1.74.0
      >       >       >            OCE: 6.9.1
      >       >       >            Curl: 7.72.0
      >       >       >            ngspice: 30
      >       >       >            Compiler: GCC 9.3.0 with C++ ABI 1013
      >       >       >       Build settings:
      >       >       >            KICAD_SCRIPTING=ON
      >       >       >            KICAD_SCRIPTING_MODULES=ON
      >       >       >            KICAD_SCRIPTING_PYTHON3=ON
      >       >       >            KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON=ON
      >       >       >            KICAD_SCRIPTING_WXPYTHON_PHOENIX=ON
      >       >       >            KICAD_SCRIPTING_ACTION_MENU=ON
      >       >       >            KICAD_USE_OCE=ON
      >       >       >            KICAD_SPICE=ON
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