Hatur nuhun ambu, ayeuna mah tos rada enyay-enyayan. Janten kecap Sunda teh kawitna mah dianggo ku para pelancong kanggo nganamian paparan nu nempel di buana Asia. Saatosna, nembe kecap Sunda teh dianggo ku karuhun janten nami karajaan di bagian kulon pulo Jawa. Hiji deui patarosan, upami teu lepat Ptolemi nyebat argyre (mérak, bodas siga pérak) sareng iobadu kanggo patempatan dina tungtung wetan peta nu didamel kuanjeunna. Upami iobadu mah rada enyay-enyayan dina emutan teh, jigana eta mah jawadwipa. Mung upami argyre, naon tah maksadna? Naha mungkin ieu teh tafsiran anjeunna ngeunaan kapuloan Sunda (anu bodas ti katebihan)? Upami suwargina bapa Edi S. E. Mah nafsirkeun eta teh kota Mérak (Salakanagara). Kumaha tah numutkeun ambu?
Baktos, Asep ----- Original Message ---- From: richadiana kartakusuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 6:42:39 PM Subject: Re: [kisunda] "Greater" & "Lesser" Sunda .... Margi harita nami teh tina Sankertta, boa teuing saleresna mah aya nami nu Sanes...upamina wae "Autronesia, Polynesia, or may could also means Indo-Malaysia" . At the times being that Indian culture has been perfectly well known in the continent, as well as the art and religion. Jadi saat itu India sedang mengalami PAMOR INTERNASIONAL Sampai2 bahasa pergaulan yang secara umum dipakai dalam dunia perdagangan > lalu menjadi bahasa budaya pun adalah bahasa Sanskrta yang didaptasikan dengan bahasa setempat (Malayu yang diaduk dengan istilah2 Sanskrta). Musafir Cina menyebut bahasa tersebut sebagai bahasa Kwun-Lun. Nyanggakeun AMBU Asep Hadiyana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: Dear Ambu and kang Yana, My question is why it is named Greater and Lesser "Sunda" Islands instead of Greater and Lesser "Putih" Islands (for instance). Naha kecap Sunda teh begitu berarti bagi yang membuat peta atau yang menamai paparan di Asia Tenggara ini? Padahal pan mun niat mah tiasa nganggo kecap padanan dina basa Malayu (bahasa dunia di ieu paparan). Pan bodas (gambaran gunung luhur nu katutup salju) teh basa Malayuna mah putih. Punten sim kuring teh tetelepk kumargi panasaran. Baktos, Asep NB: Sareng hiji deui kanggo kang Yana, iraha eta kecap Sundae ngawitan dianggo ku urang Inggris / Eropah upamina wae kecap Sundae dianggap asal-usul Greater & Lesser ...? Punten ieu teh tetelepek nyaeta kumargi haus ku kanyaho. ----- Original Message ---- From: richadiana kartakusuma To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:28:27 PM Subject: Re: [kisunda] "Greater" & "Lesser" Sunda .... It is Sir, that's correct but i wonder where did you get the information ? would you please give us more. Eta kaitanana sareng Austronesia, ditelusuri melalui perekembangan (linguistik) bahasa Malayu sebagai bukti paling significant "Bahasa Malayu sebagai Bahasa DUNIA" AMBU SASTRANEGARA THARYANA wrote: Archeologist believe that Southeast Asia is the cultural center, wich was destroyed by an unlucky flood in the last Ice Age. The decendants are Polynesians and the Indonesians who live on Sundae Land or on the submerged continents of Southeast Asia. Kang Yana > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Waluya > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:06:57 PM > Subject: Re: [kisunda] "Greater" & "Lesser" Sunda > .... > > > From: "richadiana kartakusuma" > > > > Paparan Sunda > "katanya" dinamai demikian (ntah > oleh siapa?) > > Tah eta Ambu "ntah oleh siapa?" nu kuring panasaran > teh. Di milis sabeulah > kuring kungsi nulis yen aya kamungkinan kecap > "Sunda" teh geus sohor atawa > dipikawanoh dimana-mana disabudeureunana, malah > mungkin tepi ka India atawa > leuwih jauh deui. Waktu urang Eropa mimiti > dararatang ka Hindia, meureun > salian kecap "India", nu kadarenge ku maranehna nya > kecap "Sunda" keur > nunjukkan tempat nu leuwih wetan deui ti India jeung > mangrupakeun pulo-pulo. > > Kuring boga analogi kieu, Ambu. Columbus lalayaran > ka kulon, maksudna > neangan tempat nu aranna India. Atuh waktu manggihan > pulo di Amerika, > manehna nyebut tempat eta teh "India" ( ayeuna > Kepuloan Hindia Barat), > manggih jelemana (padumuk asli), der diaranan "Urang > India" (Indian) > ....padahal duka puruneun, duka henteu padumuk asli > Amerika teh, > disaragamkeun aranna "Indian" ti kaler tepi ka kidul > wanua Amerika, nu > sakitu legana. > > Lamun leres asumsi kuring, Ieu hartina "Sunda" teh > (meureun) mangrupakeun > tempat anu penting, gede pangaruhna ka wewengkon > sabudeureunana, kamungkinan > lain dina widang "hankam" jeung "resep perang", tapi > leuwih dina WIDANG > EKONOMI. Tempatna oge pasti ayem-tentrem, da ari > nagara nu "resep > serba-serbu" (ekspansionist) kaditu-kadieu mah, > biasana ge ekonomina sok > amburadul da rahayatna diajakan perang malulu. > "Widang Ekonomi" ieu nu pasti > paling narik keur urang Eropa, pan maksud maranehna > dararatang kadieu teh > awalna mah arek dagang ...... > > Kabiasaan urang Eropa nanaon teh sok > didokumentasikeun. Dokumentasi ieu nu > dibaraca deui jeung jadi panunjuk kunu arek > neruskeun, boh nu sagenerasi > jeung nu nulis dokumentasi atawa generasi nu > satuluyna. Akhirna kecap > "Sunda" terus diwariskeun, tepi ka "abadi" ka jaman > ayeuna, saperti kecap > "Indian" keur padumuk asli Amerika. > > Hanjakalna, nu nulis sajarah leuwih resep nulis > sajarah peperangan jeung > kaributan, tinimbang nulis sajarah nu kaitanana > jeung ekonomi atawa sosial > masyarakatna. Teu rame meureun, ari perang mah pan > rame. Ku resep-resepna > sajarahwan kana perang, tepi ka "Jakarta" oge hari > jadina "dijieun" pas > runtagna Sunda Kalapa dirurug Demak/ Banten. Padahal > eta kota teh tadina oge > pan geus aya (Sunda Kalapa)? > > Cag ah, ngancapruxna ........ > > Baktos, > WALUYA > > Recent Activity > 4New Members > Visit Your Group > Need traffic? > Drive customers > With search ads > on Yahoo! > Special K Group > on Yahoo! Groups > Join the challenge > and lose weight. > Dog Zone > on Yahoo! 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