Kato imong nabasahan kay mao na akong first na plano. Pero naraise man ang issue sa licensing. So ang amo nalang buhaton kay i-separate nalang sila. Hehe. Yep mudagahan gihapon siya bisag walay GhostScript.
Thanks. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Franz Kevin B. Bicar < [email protected]> wrote: > I think if you just call the executable from your app (example: exec nga > command) ok ra siya, but if you do interprocess communication sa imo > application ug sa GhostScript, mao na ni ang di pwede. Technically man gud, > this is still considered as “derived work”. > > > > Ano nalang, say you delete GhostScript from your Machine, would the > application still work? Let’s say there’s another app that can substitute > for GhostScript, would your application still work if ? If okay siya sa > conditions, then pde ra ni siya.. > > > > Kung inana imo plan na didto na gyud ninyo tawagon ang executable sa iya > default install path, I think its okay.. ang ako man gud nabasahan ganiha > kay kani: > > *“Ganahan unta ko icopy lang ang bin files together sa tool dayun > idistribute para dili na hassle sa customer* > > *na mag install pa siya og Ghostscript. Pero kay dili pwede, ipa require > nalang siya i-install og Ghostscript.”* > > > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason Yap > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:18 PM > > *To:* Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > *Subject:* Re: [klug] GNU GPL Licensing > > > > Yep thanks sa info bai. Nabasa na nako sila ganina sa research nako. Mao > wala nako nagpadayon sa first nako na plan na ikuyog distribute ang among > software and GhostScript. > > > > Akong gibuhat nalang karon kay separate na ang distribution nila. Ang > pangayoon nalang sa software namo kay ang installation path sa GhostScript. > Ok ra ba na bai? Ako ra man gud nabasa kay incorporating the Open source > software sa software mismo. Igo ra man nako siya tawagon. > > > > Thanks. > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Franz Kevin B. Bicar < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Bai, I think you have to read this if you are going to use GhostScript sa > inyo project, found this on Wikipedia: > > > > “Ghostscript was originally written by L. Peter Deutsch in 1986 for the GNU > Project, and released under the GNU General Public License; later, Deutsch > formed Aladdin Enterprises to license Ghostscript under a proprietary > license. Ghostscript is currently owned by Artifex Software and maintained > by Artifex Software employees and the worldwide user community. Current > version of Ghostscript is again available under GPL but can be also licensed > for use in proprietary projects for a fee.” > > > > - Wikipedia > > > > Then naa dayon mismo sa GhostScript na license: > > > > "Provision (2) effectively prevents the development of proprietary > commercial products that incorporate GPL Ghostscript without a commercial > license as a part, since these are "derived works" in the legal sense." > > > > If I understand you correctly, you are using GhostScript for a proprietary > commercial product. So I guess ang kani nga provision ang mu-apply sa inyo. > Kani gi bold gyud ni nila sa ila site: > > > > *IF YOUR ENTIRE APPLICATION IS LICENSED TO THE PUBLIC UNDER EITHER THE > AFPL OR THE GNU GPL, YOU CAN DISTRIBUTE AFPL GHOSTSCRIPT OR GNU GHOSTSCRIPT, > RESPECTIVELY, WITH YOUR APPLICATION WITHOUT A COMMERCIAL LICENSE . . .* > > * * > > So unless your product is also GPL, then GhostScript GPL license is not > applicable to you. > > > > Furthermore: > > > > Some examples of distribution requiring a commercial license include: > > 1. Distributing Ghostscript (or any component thereof) within your non-GNU > GPL application. > > 2. Distributing Ghostscript on the same media with your non-GNU GPL > application for use with and by your application. > > 3. Distributing Ghostscript embedded within hardware. > > > > I’m linking the sites para ma basa pud nimo. Correct me lang if I’m > mistaken sa akong interpretationsa ila licenses. I think it pays to read the > licenses of your intended “open source” libraries cause sometimes they have > different conditions depending on every situation. > > > > Links: > > http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/doc/cvs/Commprod.htm > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GhostScript > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jason Yap > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:42 PM > *To:* Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > *Subject:* Re: [klug] GNU GPL Licensing > > > > Ah ok thanks sir for the information. Pwede ra sad sir i-apil lang ang > installation file sa GhostScript with our tool. Convenient na siya para sa > user. > > > > Thanks. > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:35 PM, hard wyrd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Then there's no problem. > > GhostScript is a separate product. Though, your app requires GhostScript to > run. Tapos ang kaso. > > Pero you have to remember to put the user's convenience into perspective > also. Since your product needs GhostScript to use your product properly, > then murag mas ma-appreciate sa imong users if you provide a version of GS > that has been tested to work well with your app. But that is entirely > optional. For all we know, you can just put a notice somewhere along the > installation workflow and inform the user na "This product needs GhostScript > to work properly. You may download GhostScript at <location of GhostScript > download>. " or something to that extent. > > Simple ra man ang need sa GPL. > > 1. If you use a GPL source code, then your app must be under GPL. > 2. Distribute your GPLed product along with source code, or provide a > location where the source code can be obtained. > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Jason Yap <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes ingana ang process sa tool. What if Sir hardwyrd, what I will do kay > butangan ra nako siya og textbox sa GUI. Didto ibutang sa user ang > installation path sa Ghostscript. But I won't bundle anything from > Ghostscript. The user will need to download Ghostscript from it's webpage > and install it. Pero tawagon gihapon nako ang executable sa bin folder > niya. > > > > Thanks. > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:19 PM, hard wyrd <[email protected]> wrote: > > As I understood your requirement (correct me if I'm wrong :), ang imong app > mo-execute lang sa Ghostscript. In essence, you app just passes some > parameters that will allow Ghostscript to generate "something". I dont see > anything wrong with it, as far as GPL is concerned. You did not incorporate > _any_ GPL code, either from Ghostscript itself or from some other opensource > project. > > Though, since you plan on bundling Ghostscript with your product, make sure > that you have avenues to allow users to get to the Ghostscript source. You > can either: > > 1. bundle Ghostscript and Ghostscript's source code. Specially if your app > runs on Linux, it's in earnest to provide the GS source that works properly > _with_ your app. You can call it "this app works well with this version of > the GS source". > > 2. point the users where they can get to the GS source - either referencing > to the GS site or project page (SourceForge?) > > 3. Provide a portion of _your app's source code_ that shows how you called > GhostScript, or its API. This is optional though. > > Word of caution. Don't rely on the above, since these are my opinions. The > most prudent is to study the GPL itself, so that you can also decide on > which GPL version you're going to use. Remember, GPLv2 is more liberal than > GPLv3. There are also other opensource licenses out there. But if your app > won't become opensource anyway, why bother? Just make sure that you did not > _reuse_ source code from other opensource projects. > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Jason Yap <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ang first plan man gud nako unta kay tapad ra ang executable open source > file with the proprietary tool. Unya sa code nako, tawagon ra nako ang open > source file. Ingana unta akong ganahan. Wala sad ko kaayo kasabot sa mga > terms sa gagamiton sa GNU GPL license hehe. > > > > If ingani akong buhaton, am I violating GNU GPL license? > > > > Thanks. > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:30 PM, hard wyrd <[email protected]> wrote: > > If you did not incorporate opensource code into your project, you dont have > to release your project as opensource. > > However, if you _DISTRIBUTE_ your project _along_ with an opensource > product, you need to provide the source code _for the opensource product_ > and retain the credits of the original developers_ of the opensource > product_ you bundled with your proprietary product. > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Jason Yap <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi List. > > > > Mangutana unta ko about GNU GPL. > > > > Naa miy software diri and gusto pud nako mugamit og open source na > software. Bale tawagon sa among software ang open source na software. It > will be release commercially after the project. Naa ba koy ma violate na mga > licenses if ever i-turn over na namo sa customer? Ang nahibaw-an nako kay if > mugamit og open source, dapat irelease pud nimo imong source code sa public > which in my case, dili pwede kay para sa customer man. > > > > Hope someone can enlighten me with this problem. > > -- > RAYMOND JASON YAP > ジェーソン・ヤップ > Assistant Research and Development Engineer > Development 3 > Advanced World Systems, Inc > > email: [email protected], [email protected] > ym: flash_jason6452 googletalk: wahoho.yap > > "The best things in life are free: Love, Wisdom, Open Source" > > > > _________________________________________________ > Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > [email protected] (http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/klug) > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > > > > -- > Part-time SysAd, full-time Dad, part-time netNinja > CNS, ACFE, FOSS Advocate and Consultant > Registered Linux User #400165 > http://www.rm2media.net > http://baudizm.blogsome.com > http://linuxblazon.wordpress.com > http://3x-comic.blogspot.com (NEW!) > > _________________________________________________ > Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > [email protected] (http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/klug) > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > > > > -- > RAYMOND JASON YAP > ジェーソン・ヤップ > Assistant Research and Development Engineer > Development 3 > Advanced World Systems, Inc > > email: [email protected], [email protected] > ym: flash_jason6452 googletalk: wahoho.yap > > "The best things in life are free: Love, Wisdom, Open Source" > > > _________________________________________________ > Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > [email protected] (http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/klug) > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > > > > -- > Part-time SysAd, full-time Dad, part-time netNinja > CNS, ACFE, FOSS Advocate and Consultant > Registered Linux User #400165 > http://www.rm2media.net > http://baudizm.blogsome.com > http://linuxblazon.wordpress.com > http://3x-comic.blogspot.com (NEW!) > > > _________________________________________________ > Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > [email protected] (http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/klug) > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > > > > -- > RAYMOND JASON YAP > ジェーソン・ヤップ > Assistant Research and Development Engineer > Development 3 > Advanced World Systems, Inc > > email: [email protected], [email protected] > ym: flash_jason6452 googletalk: wahoho.yap > > "The best things in life are free: Love, Wisdom, Open Source" > > > _________________________________________________ > Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > [email protected] (http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/klug) > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > > > > -- > Part-time SysAd, full-time Dad, part-time netNinja > CNS, ACFE, FOSS Advocate and Consultant > Registered Linux User #400165 > http://www.rm2media.net > http://baudizm.blogsome.com > http://linuxblazon.wordpress.com > http://3x-comic.blogspot.com (NEW!) > > > _________________________________________________ > Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > [email protected] (http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/klug) > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > > > > -- > RAYMOND JASON YAP > ジェーソン・ヤップ > Assistant Research and Development Engineer > Development 3 > Advanced World Systems, Inc > > email: [email protected], [email protected] > ym: flash_jason6452 googletalk: wahoho.yap > > "The best things in life are free: Love, Wisdom, Open Source" > > > _________________________________________________ > Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > [email protected] (http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/klug) > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > > > > -- > RAYMOND JASON YAP > ジェーソン・ヤップ > Assistant Research and Development Engineer > Development 3 > Advanced World Systems, Inc > > email: [email protected], [email protected] > ym: flash_jason6452 googletalk: wahoho.yap > > "The best things in life are free: Love, Wisdom, Open Source" > > _________________________________________________ > Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > [email protected] (http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/klug) > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > -- RAYMOND JASON YAP ジェーソン・ヤップ Assistant Research and Development Engineer Development 3 Advanced World Systems, Inc email: [email protected], [email protected] ym: flash_jason6452 googletalk: wahoho.yap "The best things in life are free: Love, Wisdom, Open Source"
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