On 9 July 2018 9:43:27 PM NZST, Michael Kuhn <m...@adminkuhn.ch> wrote: >Hi Martin > > > * 1693 unnamed libraries.. I see lots of names here.. am i missing > > something: https://hea.koha-community.org/libraries ? > >Actually I didn't remember https://hea.koha-community.org/libraries - >thanks for the hint! > >However https://hea.koha-community.org/ lists a number of 1'693 >libraries while https://hea.koha-community.org/libraries lists only >about 1'140 of them by name. Why is that so? > >Quite some of them use letters that I just can't read - like مكتبة كلية > >الزراعة or สำนักพัฒนาโครงสร้างและระบบบริหารงานบุคคล - that's OK with >me, >but that said it is still a fact that without a transcription I just >can't read the stuff... >
Really? Really? You are going to call someones language stuff and denigrate just because you can't read it? I stopped reading your email at this point. Chris > > * 35 really up to date.. t's useful to see the distribution of >> installed versions.. the HA stats are fed directly from koha >installs > > and as such are automatically kept up to date. > >Yes I see that. > > > I don't really see what your point was there? > >Paul was mentioning that many French libraries are or seem to be >outdated - "most libraries are supposed to be in version 2.x [...] >Other >pages are also highly outdated, almost nothing with the current version > >numbering schema." > >In https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences of the >aformentioned >1'693 libraries for even less than 1'140 of them the version number is >given. But how representative are these? Comparing just the data from >libraries.org (which lists about 5'000 Koha libraries) for example the >distribution of countries is: > >* USA: 1'772 of 5'000 in Libraries.org / 149 of 1'693 at HEA >* Turkey: 961 of 5'000 in Libraries.org / 3 of 1'693 at HEA >* France: 305 of 5'000 in Libraries.org / 133 of 1'693 at HEA >* Great Britain: 232 of 5'000 in Libraries.org / 31 of 1'693 at HEA >* Germany: 41 of 5'000 in Libraries.org / 17 of 1'693 at HEA > >Now is libraries.org more representative or HEA... or none? To me it >seems like some people are using libraries.org, some are using HEA or >even both - but most don't use or even want to use anything at all. > >As I understand you need at least Koha 3.18 to use HEA even if for some > >libraries version numbers like 3.10 or 3.14 are given. Does this mean >the other almost 14'000 Koha libraries are not even on Koha 3.18? Of >course I can interpret, but since the numbers are not representative at > >all, I can just see that out of this unrepresentative sample of 1'693 >libraries 35 (2%) are really up to date. 35 of 15'000 almost unknwon >libraries is even just 0.2%. What does it really mean? > >Maybe I'm the wrong person. Maybe someone should write here about his >HEA expoerience who is actually using these numbers and explain in >which >way he can make use of these numbers... me, I'm probably just stunned >by >them. > >> * It's easier to opt in to HEA than it is to manually add yourself to > > the wiki pages (if you even know of the existence of the wiki pages) > >Sure, I do know that, but still of the estimated 15'000 Koha libraries >a >maximum of 11% have opted to use HEA so far. > >But on the other hand if you add yourself in the Koha wiki (or let your > >support company add you) you can decide yourself what to add. > > > * Clicking through to the library detail page in HEA shows all the > > information and more doesn't it: > > https://hea.koha-community.org/libraries/274 > >Yes, but of course this is only true for the libraries that opt to add >themselves to HEA. It seems many libraries don't know about HEA oder >they think to have good reasons to not or never add themselves to HEA. >Some of these reasons may be: > >* data protection - some may consider at least some of the data as >delicate >* data security - who knows what data is really submitted? So better >don't submit at all >* the IT department doesn't allow any outside connections >* exposure is not wanted in any way (for example with company >libraries, >the library of the NSA/KGB, private installations, etc) > >I'm not a statistician but I doubt we will ever have what such a giy >would call representative data in HEA or anywhere. So I think it is >good >to have ALL available data i. e. including the data in the Koha wiki >and >not deleting them. > > > - If there's something > > missing do feel free to request it's addition. > >I do not request anything but I do indicate that the Koha wiki offers >also e-mail addresses and names and some other information in the >"notes" column. Last but not least, the information in the Koha wiki >(unlike to HEA) can be edited by anyone who's got some information. >Nothing has to be activated and anyone can do it without asking for >permission. You just need an account for the Koha wiki. > >Best wishes: Michael >-- >Geschäftsführer · Diplombibliothekar BBS, Informatiker eidg. >Fachausweis >Admin Kuhn GmbH · Pappelstrasse 20 · 4123 Allschwil · Schweiz >T 0041 (0)61 261 55 61 · E m...@adminkuhn.ch · W www.adminkuhn.ch >_______________________________________________ >Koha-devel mailing list >Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org >http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel >website : http://www.koha-community.org/ >git : http://git.koha-community.org/ >bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/ -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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