Lori,
Thanks for the information. This pretty much says what
ByWater told us to set when we went online, but I'm still looking for
information on how relevance works, and why it does what it does. This still
remains a mystery.
Christopher Brannon
From: loria...@gmail.com [mailto:loria...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lori Bowen
Ayre
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:48 PM
To: BRANNON, CHRISTOPHER
Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
Subject: Re: [Koha] Relevance
This this help?
01:42<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958182>
Milts_NZ
Hey Idlers, is there anyone I can talk to about stopwords in Koha?
01:42<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958183>
druthb
Hi, Milts. :)
01:43<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958184>
Milts_NZ
hey :D
01:43<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958185>
we're playing with stopwords, and it seems to make little difference... is it
correct that you can't use stopwords if Zebra is turned on?
01:43<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958186>
because without them our relevancy ranking is pretty off...
01:44<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958187>
druthb
The short answer is, if you're using NoZebra, there are stopwords, but you have
bigger problems, as that is deprecated, and really shouldn't be used. If
you're using Zebra, there are no stopwords.
01:44<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958188>
Milts_NZ
ah I was wondering that. We are using Zebra.
01:44<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958189>
druthb
I've not observed that problem here; lemme grab a couple of settings for you to
check.
01:44<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958190>
mtj
ooh, that sounds like it needs a bug logged
01:44<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958191>
druthb
what does?
01:44<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958192>
wahanui
does is calculate the discount on this price or the tax is removed before to
calculte the discount on the price before taxes?
01:45<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958193>
druthb
wahanui: forget does
01:45<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958194>
wahanui
druthb: I forgot does
01:45<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958195>
Milts_NZ
I've got a screenshot of a search for the title of an item uploaded
here:http://www.4freeimagehost.com/[...]=8740fa83bc35.png<http://www.4freeimagehost.com/show.php?i=8740fa83bc35.png>
01:46<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958196>
and it appears 6th in the list with all the items before it seemingly appearing
because they have "a" and "the" in the titles
01:46<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958197>
druthb
we get best results with QueryAutoTruncate set to "only if * is added",
QueryFuzzy "Try", QueryStemming "Try", QueryWeightFields "Enable".
01:47<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958198>
Now, in the default install, defaultSortField/defaultSortOrder are set to
relevance/ascending, which doesn't make much sense...it puts the *lowest*
relevance first.
01:47<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958199>
Milts_NZ
OK. We don't have QueryFuzzy and QueryStemming on, maybe they would help
01:47<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958200>
ooooo o.0
01:47<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958201>
druthb
I always end up setting defaultSortOrder and OPACdefaultSortOrder to
"descending," which makes better sense for relevance.
01:48<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958202>
Milts_NZ
will that also make a difference when searching in the staff side?
01:48<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958203>
druthb
defaultSortOrder is the staff sidd, OPACdefaultSortOrder is the OPAC
01:48<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958204>
*side
01:49<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958205>
mtj
druthb: a patch to remove stopwords, after nozebra code is deleted
01:49<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958206>
druthb
no need to reindex when you change those; it Just Works.
01:49<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958207>
mtj++ once NoZebra is gone, yeah, all the stuff that only works for NoZebra
needs to go away tooooo
01:50<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958208>
Milts_NZ
druthb: Thanks, playing with the sort order's done it
01:50<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958209>
druthb
Glad to have been of service Milts. I set up new installs all the time, and
that's just one of my setting-up steps.
01:52<http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2012-04-27#i_958210>
Milts_NZ
druthb: SpaceLibrarian also says Hi and THANKS
I found it in the IRC logs by searching "relevancy" in the home page search
box.
Lori
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On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:38 PM, BRANNON, CHRISTOPHER
<cbran...@cdalibrary.org<mailto:cbran...@cdalibrary.org>> wrote:
I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on how relevance is determined
in the Koha catalog. Our consortium cannot figure out why things are in the
order they are in when sorting by relevance. There is apparently no
information handy on this topic. Any insight on this topic would be most
appreciated!
Christopher
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