Hi,

Thanks for taking the initiative on this!

I don't know if this is within the scope of the project, but as an
example of a search that doesn't work, last year I spent a lot of time
& effort failing to come up with a search query that would show all
new titles at a branch.

I constructed a CCL query I thought would return biblios having at
least one item with both a given branch and an acquisition date in the
last 30 days. But among the search results was a biblio with two
items, one at the desired branch but acquired more than 30 days ago,
and one acquired in the last 30 days but at a different branch.

Galen ultimately confirmed for me that you can't query for an item
that meets two conditions, as CCL queries extend across the whole
biblio--if one item in a biblio meets one of the conditions and
another item meets the other condition, the biblio is returned.

I hope all that was clear.

Thanks again,
Daniel



On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:01 AM, BWS Johnson
<abesottedphoe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Salvete!
>
>     Let's fix it together!
>
> In June, there was discussion on the list dealing with search. [1] I had long 
> been a proponent of "Don't touch it! I love it! It works!" As Koha matured, 
> the search slipped a little. I get annoyed when I find preferences that 
> result in stunningly different search results on different catalogues.  I 
> don't want there to be a large discrepancy in what users can find at one 
> Library and won't ever find at another if both Libraries run Koha.
>
> Some search related system preferences are somewhat counter-intuitive, and 
> not nearly as helpful as one might hope. I resigned myself to sadly nodding 
> my head when I checked on the behaviours mentioned in the listserv 
> discussion. Jared mentioned wanting to see search fixed on IRC, so I 
> challenged him to be the one to take it on.
>
> I still think we have a better search than most ILSs, but I want to get back 
> to being the best out there by far. We've talked about group financing of 
> enhancements before. Sometimes this happens. I feel that a lot of 
> enhancements for Koha don't come to fruition because folks are scared to ask 
> for aestimates, or realise that they can't afford it all on their own.
>
> Your Library doesn't have to sponsor this on its own. If you've not put in 
> for developments recently, we urge you to do so now. If you know about an 
> appropriate grant for this sort of work, do let me know. I'll take a shot at 
> writing it.
>
> Jared is willing to bang his head against this project. I am willing to run 
> test searches. I asked him to dice things up so that people can afford to 
> contribute. Some subcomponents of the rewrite will only run about $3000. The 
> loose aestimate for the entire first phase is roughly $70,000.
>
> I realise that budget times are tight, but we're hoping with a new fiscal 
> year, now might be a good time to act on fixing a major stumbling block to 
> usability. If we split the costs, this is eminently doable and will happen 
> sooner rather than later. Jared and I want to make this better for users, but 
> neither of us can afford to do so for free.
>
> We want your feedback in this process. We don't want to develop in a vacuum. 
> It would be nice to have a few discussions like we did with holds slips. You 
> can see what we're talking about here:
>
> https://trello.com/board/search-rewrite/4ff86aadd9b1c1436f2aefee
>
> Ask Jared for an invitation if you want to modify it. We'll also be adding 
> material under the RFCs section of the Community Wiki.
>
> We'll need people to test things and to run searches that will make us laugh 
> and cry.
>
> So let's do it. Let's make it happen. Let's make Koha better.
>
> [1]http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2012-June/033230.html
>
> Cheers,
> Brooke
>
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