Ok, I see where the jobs are. I didn't understand that there was a difference between a source install and a package install.
In some of the 3.14 documentation there is a chapter on cronjobs and how to set them up. Now i understand that these particular documents must be mean for the source installs. Personally, I'm a little relieved that I don't have to build the cronjob for Koha. Thanks to everyone for the help. Hang in there, Phillip Subject: Re: [Koha] Crontab - is that one tabs used to open beer cans? From: chr...@catalyst.net.nz Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 07:56:30 +1200 To: pponc...@live.com; mtomp...@hotmail.com CC: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Don't touch anything. Seriously. If you have a packaged install, it's all been done. Look in cron.d, cron.daily etc all the jobs have been set up. Chris On 8 July 2014 7:17:29 am NZST, Phillip Ponchot <pponc...@live.com> wrote: The old koha was installed as a tarball on the old server so I believe this makes it a source-based. The new koha was installed via a repository. apt-get install koha-common. I did find in /etc/cron.d a koha-common file. The contents of this file was: # /etc/cron.d/koha-common # # Call koha-rebuild-zebra for each enabled Koha instance, to make sure the # Zebra indexes are up to date. SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin */5 * * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra && koha-rebuild-zebra -q $(koha-list --enabled) */15 * * * * root koha-foreach --enabled --email /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl also there is a directory in /user/share/koha/bin/cronjobs - are these run by the koha program or do I have to schedule them in a crontab job? advance_notices.pl holds backup.sh import_webservice_batch.pl batch_anonymise.pl j2a.pl build_browser_and_cloud.pl longoverdue.pl cart_to_shelf.pl MARC21_parse_test.pl check-url.pl overdue_notices.pl check-url-quick.pl printoverdues.sh cleanup_database.pl process_message_queue.pl cloud-kw.pl purge_suggestions.pl cloud-sample.conf rss CONFIGURE.gmail runreport.pl create_koc_db.pl serialsUpdate.pl crontab.example services_throttle.pl delete_expired_opac_registrations.pl social_data delete_patrons.pl staticfines.pl delete_unverified_opac_registrations.pl thirdparty fines.pl update_totalissues.pl gather_print_notices.pl I just want to run automatically anything that needs to be done to keep koha up to date. Thanks Phillip From: mtomp...@hotmail.com To: pponc...@live.com CC: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Crontab - is that one tabs used to open beer cans? Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:00:19 -0400 Greetings, First, you still did not specify if you were doing a package installation or a source-based installation. Which are you doing? If a source-based installation, then your hacked up solution is passable, though not optimal. Second, let's reply to your points: There is a "syste ms" crontab which ubuntu warns not to change. You can create crontab jobs at the system level without modifying existing ones. Every file placed in the appropriate cron.* directory is its own crontab file. The crontab on the old server is sudo crotab -uroot -e where all the koha cronjobs are setup. This is a user crontab still. Was the old system a source-based installation or was it a packages based installation? If you are finding user crontabs, then it likely was a source-based installation. Why do you need to have the new system as a source-based install? A package-based installation sets up all the crontab jobs you need by default for you already. No crontab job tweaks required. Seriously, please consider a packages base d installation: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages And thirdly and lastly, did you actually go looking for crontab jobs manually? Like the following done on a package installation of Koha that we are using in production. $ cd /etc/cron.d $ ls -la total 20 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 11 17:29 . drwxr-xr-x 98 root root 4096 Jul 7 17:39 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 422 Nov 22 2013 koha-common -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 102 Jun 19 2012 .placeholder -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 396 Dec 16 2011 sysstat $ cat koha-common # /etc/cron.d/koha-common # # Call koha-rebuild-zebra for each enabled Koha instance, to make sure the # Zebra indexes are up to date. SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin */5 * * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra && koha-rebuild-zebra -q $(koha-list --enabled) */15 * * * * root koha-foreach --enabled --email /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl $ cd ../cron.daily $ ls -la total 84 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 25 11:55 . drwxr-xr-x 98 root root 4096 Jul 7 17:39 .. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 633 Jul 12 2013 apache2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 219 Apr 10 2012 apport -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15399 Jul 16 2013 apt -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 314 Apr 18 2013 aptitude -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 502 Mar 31 2012 bsdmainutils -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 256 Jan 7 2013 dpkg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1410 Nov 22 2013 koha-common -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 372 Oct 4 2011 logrotate -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1365 Dec 28 2012 man-db -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 606 Aug 17 2011 mloc ate -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 249 Sep 12 2012 passwd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 102 Jun 19 2012 .placeholder -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2417 Jul 1 2011 popularity-contest -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2947 Jun 19 2012 standard -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 469 Dec 16 2011 sysstat -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 214 Sep 10 2012 update-notifier-common $ cat koha-common #!/bin/sh # /etc/cron.daily/koha-common -- Daily housekeeping tasks for all Kohas. # Copyright 2010 Catalyst IT, Ltd # # This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify # it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by # the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or # (at your option) any later version. # # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of # MERCHANTABILITY or FI TNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the # GNU General Public License for more details. # # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License # along with this program. If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>. koha-foreach --enabled --email /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_noticest koha-foreach --enabled /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl koha-foreach --enabled --email /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/advance_noticesc koha-foreach --enabled /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/holds/cancel_expired_hol /dev/null 2>&1 koha-foreach --enabled /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/services_throttle.pl > null 2>&1 koha-foreach --enabled /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/cleanup_database.pl --sns --zebraqueue 10 koha-foreach --enabled --noemail /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/cleanup_databl --mail koha-run-backups --days 2 --output /var/spool/koha $ cd ../cron.hourly $ ls -la total 16 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 11 17:29 . drwxr-xr-x 98 root root 4096 Jul 7 17:39 .. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 840 Nov 22 2013 koha-common -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 102 Jun 19 2012 .placeholder $ cat koha-common #!/bin/sh # /etc/cron.hourly/koha-common -- Hourly housekeeping tasks for all Kohas. # Copyright 2010 Catalyst IT, Ltd # # This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify # it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by # the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or # (at your option) any later version. # # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the # GNU General Public License for more details. # # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License # along with this program. If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>. koha-foreach --enabled /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/holds/build_holds_queue.pl And checking out cron.monthly and cron.weekly failed to find a koha-common file. And by the way, running a zebra process twice for the same instance is a bad thing to do. So please check /etc/cron.* before you use what was suggested by Vashil Patil. GPML, Mark Tompsett -----Original Message----- From: Phillip Ponchot Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:21 PM To: Robin Sheat Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Crontab - is that one tabs used to open beer cans? There is a "systems" crontab which ubuntu warns not to change. The crontab on the old server is sudo crotab -uroot -e where all the koha cronjobs are setup. When I run this command on the new server there's info about the crontab but there are no jobs in the crontab so I guess I'll have to create them to get koha to run properly. Thanks for your help. Phillip From: ro...@catalyst.net.nz To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 16:14:40 +1200 Subject: Re: [Koha] Crontab - is that one tabs used to open beer cans? Phillip Ponchot schreef op zo 06-07-2014 om 21:09 [-070 0]: Thank you so much. Its easier to use one that is already built than to spend hours trying to build the crontab. I appreciate you're sharing. Phillip Go with what Mark said to start with: you're viewing the user crontab when you use crontab -e, and that's most likely not what you want. 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