Our authority records have spaces, or not, depending on the type
Agatha Christie: (personal name) 010 ## - LIBRARY OF CONGRESS CONTROL NUMBER a LC control number n 79038407 z Canceled/invalid LC sh 85025298 1 space after the n. Eagles of Death Metal (Corporate name) 010 ## - LIBRARY OF CONGRESS CONTROL NUMBER a LC control number no2005113289 __________________ Cecil Hillyard Washoe County Library Technical Services 775-327-8338 -----Original Message----- From: Koha [mailto:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Joy Nelson Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 11:03 AM To: Ian Bays Cc: Koha Subject: Re: [Koha] Staging and matching authority records Ian- I normally do not see spaces in the LC number in authorities. Thanks Joy On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Ian Bays <ian.b...@ptfs-europe.com> wrote: > Thanks everyone. > > Encouraged by your successes I was not getting a match on the 010$a > but noticed the contents had at least one space in it. > I set up a test record without any spaces and found it is matching now. > > So it may be the index definitions for the 010$a in authorities that > needs to allow for phrase or it may be that the 010$a should always > have no spaces (or other white space). > > For those that are using the 010$a can anyone say if they know if any > of their 010$a have space(s) in them? The example I had been using was: > > "n 81032458 " > That is two spaces after the "n" and one at the end. > > Many thanks. It may be we need to change the contents of the 010$a to > exclude spaces and on the import too. > > Thanks again. > Ian > On 22/12/2015 17:19, Hillyard, Cecil wrote: > >> We use this a lot to download batches of authority records from >> SkyRiver >> >> In Record Matching rules: >> >> Match points: Match point 1 >> Search index: LC-card-number >> Score: 1000 >> Matchpoint components >> Tag: 010 >> Subfield:s a >> Offset: 0 >> Length: 0 >> >> You just have to make sure that your current records do have 010s to >> match on. >> >> __________________ >> Cecil Hillyard >> Washoe County Library >> Techinical Services >> 775-327-8338 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Koha [mailto:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of >> Tomas Cohen Arazi >> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 8:50 AM >> To: Christopher Davis >> Cc: Koha >> Subject: Re: [Koha] Staging and matching authority records >> >> Chris, we had trouble getting a matching rule for authorities. We >> ended up using the 001 field I recall. It makes use of the Zebra >> indexes, so it is important that you put the right one. >> >> 2015-12-22 13:40 GMT-03:00 Christopher Davis <cgda...@uintah.utah.gov>: >> >> Ian, >>> >>> Joy's correct, while MARC authority records can have ISBNs, they >>> typically do not. Sorry to lead you astray :-$ >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Christopher Davis, MLS >>> Systems & E-Services Librarian >>> Uintah County Library >>> cgda...@uintah.utah.gov >>> (435) 789-0091 ext.261 >>> uintahlibrary.org >>> basinlibraries.org >>> facebook.com/uintahcountylibrary >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Joy Nelson >>> <j...@bywatersolutions.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Ian- >>>> If you have the matching rule set up to match on the 010 subfield a >>>> using the LC-cardnumber index, then the matching should happen if 1. >>>> your authority records are indexed 2. you have 010$a in your >>>> existing records AND in the incoming records >>>> >>> (and >>> >>>> matches do exist). >>>> >>>> (I'm assuming here that you've also specified the incoming file is >>>> an authority file, not a bibliographic file. ) >>>> >>>> I'm not sure that using a 020 will assist you in matching as that >>>> is a bibliographic tag, not an authority tag. And I do not believe >>>> the >>>> 020 is indexed for authority records. A tag must be indexed in >>>> order to be >>>> >>> used as >>> >>>> a match point. >>>> >>>> When troubleshooting, I generally find a record I know should match >>>> and >>>> >>> then >>> >>>> look at the 010$a in the incoming file and existing record to see >>>> if >>>> >>> there >>> >>>> is anything that would potentially cause the match to fail. >>>> >>>> -Joy >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Christopher Davis < >>>> >>> cgda...@uintah.utah.gov> >>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ian, >>>>> >>>>> Off the top of my head, I thought that you might want to tried >>>>> adding MARC authority field 020 (ISBN) as a match point to your >>>>> matching point rule? Not every MARC authority record will have a >>>>> LCCN (although most do). >>>>> >>>>> Good luck and Merry Christmas, >>>>> >>>>> Christopher Davis, MLS >>>>> Systems & E-Services Librarian >>>>> Uintah County Library >>>>> cgda...@uintah.utah.gov >>>>> (435) 789-0091 ext.261 >>>>> uintahlibrary.org >>>>> basinlibraries.org >>>>> facebook.com/uintahcountylibrary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Ian Bays >>>>> <ian.b...@ptfs-europe.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi. >>>>>> >>>>>> We are trying to stage some authority records to match existing >>>>>> authority records to overlay them. >>>>>> We have used the matching for bibliographic records successfully >>>>>> >>>>> before >>> >>>> but >>>>>> are having difficulty with matching authority records. >>>>>> The version of Koha is 3.20.01.000 and we are MARC21 using dom >>>>>> >>>>> indexing >>> >>>> and >>>>>> icu chains. >>>>>> >>>>>> Before getting into the details, can I ask if anyone has any >>>>>> >>>>> experience >>> >>>> of >>>>>> matching authorities (staging and managing) with any success? >>>>>> >>>>>> We are trying to match on the 010$a and looking at the matching >>>>>> rules documentation in: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://manual.koha-community.org/3.20/en/catadmin.html#recordmatc >>>>>> hingr >>> ules >>> >>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ian >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ian Bays >>>>>> Director of Projects, PTFS Europe Limited Content Management and >>>>>> Library Solutions >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org >>>>>> Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz >>>>>> https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org >>>>> Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz >>>>> https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Joy Nelson >>>> Director of Migrations >>>> >>>> ByWater Solutions >>>> Support and Consulting for Open Source Software >>>> Office: Fort Worth, TX >>>> Phone/Fax (888)900-8944 >>>> What is Koha? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz >>> https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > Ian Bays > Director of Projects, PTFS Europe Limited Content Management and > Library Solutions > +44 (0) 800 756 6803 (phone) > +44 (0) 7774 995297 (mobile) > +44 (0) 800 756 6384 (fax) > skype: ian.bays > email: ian.b...@ptfs-europe.com > > _______________________________________________ > Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz > https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha > -- Joy Nelson Director of Migrations ByWater Solutions <http://bywatersolutions.com> Support and Consulting for Open Source Software Office: Fort Worth, TX Phone/Fax (888)900-8944 What is Koha? <http://bywatersolutions.com/what-is-koha/> _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha