At 07:04 AM 2/2/2016 +0100, Mirko Tietgen wrote:
Paul,
Paul A schrieb am 31.01.2016
> a) Win XP has a market penetration of one in every nine or ten
> computers world wide;
According to w3cschools.com, Windows XP has a marketshare of 2,3%
(December 2015)[1]

W3 is "collected from W3Schools' log-files" (perhaps statistically a specialized and/or minor subset of the WWW?) and the source I quoted in my first email <https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0> gives a worldwide market share of 11.42% (January 2016) -- their methodology available on their website. StatCounter <http://gs.statcounter.com/#desktop-os-ww-monthly-201601-201601-bar> is a little lower (but still 3.5 times higher than W3) -- which is why I wrote "one in every nine or ten".

> I might guess that this percentage is higher
> outside the "Western world" where libraries are perhaps just as
> important, or more so, than in "developed countries."

Citation needed.

"For example, in North America usage of Windows XP has dropped to 4.7%, but in Asia it is still 13.6% (even higher in China, at 30%; and India)" <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems> -- you can also pick by area/country on the StatCounter URL I gave above.

I have no axe to grind -- except that I see Koha as (a) an internal management tool, and (b) as the _public_, _worldwide_ interface to our holdings, this latter being very important to our goals. Hence my interest in this type of statistics.

But we might be wandering a bit off-topic for this list...

Best -- Paul


> Nothing to do
> with pyramids, but whether or not the Koha Wiki is important to
> them, I'll leave up to you...

My guess is that this percentage is higher in western
administrations that rather pay extra support fees than get their
act together and migrate to a recent operating system, because they
rely on custom software developed around the time of pyramids that
requires XP.

I live in Berlin. 28.902 of 70.223 Computers the Senate of Berlin is
responsible for were runnuning Windows XP end of October 2014. They
paid 300.000€ to get extra support from Microsoft until April
2015.[2] At that point the data security officer demanded 10.000s of
Computers running XP to be shut down immediately. Microsoft agreed
to renew the support contract once again.

In this case the information went public. I really don't want to
know how many cases like that we have in Germany alone. I don't know
what the status is today, but I have guess.

Fun fact: There were also 320 Servers running Windows 2003 Server
mid-2015, the extended support contract was supposed to cost about a
million Euro.[3]

> As to paying Microsoft's licensing fees, we're a charity and prefer
> spending our budget on outreach to school children, rather than
> financing Redmond.

Which means you are running a completely unsupported operating
system on some of your computers. That's scary. Good to hear you
plan to end that.

-- Mirko


[1] http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
[2]
http://pardok.parlament-berlin.de/starweb/adis/citat/VT/17/SchrAnfr/s17-15656.pdf
(German)
[3]
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Windows-Server-2003-Berliner-Senat-vor-sicherheitstechnischer-Herausforderung-2766718.html
(German)




>
> At 08:58 PM 1/30/2016 +0100, Mirko Tietgen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Paul A schrieb am 30.01.2016
>>
>> > It appears that the Koha/Let's encrypt certificate will never
>> > work on WinXP
>>
>> No, it won't. XP was dead before LE was born. It will probably not
>> work for other ancient stuff, like pyramids.
>>
>> Wikipedia[1] says
>>
>> > On April 14, 2009, Windows XP exited mainstream support and
>> > entered the Extended Support phase; […] Extended support endded  on
>> > April 8, 2014, over 12 years since the release of XP; normally
>> > Microsoft products have a support life cycle of only 10
>> > years.[118] Beyond the final security updates released on April
>> > 8, no more security patches or support information are provided
>> > for XP free-of-charge; "critical patches" will still be created,
>> > and made available only to customers subscribing to a paid
>> > "Custom Support" plan
>>
>> I don't know how much money you would have to put into the paid
>> "Custom Plan" for something like this to happen, but since the rest
>> of the world does not have a paid "Support Win XP forever" plan,
>> it's not really their problem either.
>>
>> If XP still works for you, cool. If it does not, well, there have
>> been a few new versions now to choose an upgrade from. Or switch to
>> GNU/Linux, I hear it's quite good.
>>
>> -- Mirko
>>
>>
>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP#End_of_support
>>
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