[Reply inline.] On Fri, March 10, 2023 14:24, David Liddle wrote:
[...] > > 1. Can you clarify in which sense you mean "offline use"? Some people > describe themselves as offline when they don't have a web browser open > but are still very much connected to the internet. For others, it just > means that they're not logged in to the specific site or service in > question. Then there are the people who are fully offline, making only > occasional connections to the internet to collect mail by POP. I had meant some form of only occasional connections to the internet. The vast majority of mailing list subscribers may have high availability relatively low cost internet connections. However, we should not exclude the less fortunate where Koha may still serve people well. Some less developed places have institutional islands where Koha would be suitable to an institution which is an island with some connectivity in the midst of an internet connectivity desert where internet connectivity has limited availability and high metered expense. Institutional intranet can serve Koha while internet access is not used much. In such circumstances, people read messages anytime which had been collected via POP or offline IMAP when briefly online and queue messages which they have composed for when they are briefly online again. The use case is also the same for people who live just outside some internet coverage area but work where internet is more readily available. I have read that some people have configured Discourse so that they can interact entirely from email and never have to interact directly with the Discourse server. However, Hyperkitty for Mailman 3 may serve users better. [...] > Again, a platform change is just something to consider. If there's no > critical mass of people reporting that the communications platforms > are insufficient or unsatisfying, then it's not worth discussing or > pursuing. I just know for a fact that messages are not getting > delivered to some subscribers because of address spoofing. The list > will have to deal with that sooner or later, in one fashion or > another. A Discourse forum has been raised previously as a way to raise engagement for users who do not currently engage on the mailing list. A major issue is how much extra work maintaining a forum would be. Are the anti-spam tools or message review tools as helpful as what we currently have for the mailing list? There have been many subscribers to the mailing list from people whose systems are infected by a variety of spambots. If people want a forum which also severs as a mailing list, Hyperkitty in Mailman 3 provides date based access to archives as opposed to sequence based access to archives. For Discourse servers which I tested, I did not find any evident means to access archives by some date based period of time nor any evident effective means to include date in a search query. Maybe there is some way of configuring date based access to messages which I did not see. Both Discourse and Hyperkitty use continuous scrolling for the next page of content which generally breaks returning to access a particular place in a list of messages without accessing a particular message. Date based access provides some mitigation for Hyperkitty and both Discourse and Hyperkitty provide proper paginated access for indexing robots run by Google, Bing, etc. or otherwise perhaps JavaScript disabled on the client side. Mailman 3 still does not have feature parity with Mailman 2 but maybe we are not using or do not need Mailman 2 features which are not currently present in Mailman 3. The easiest thing to do for the moment is to Mung the from header in Mailman 2 to support DMARC. I have not found notice of any software project mailing list adopting the MIME wrapping approach to DMARC which has too much of an adverse risk of having messages appear as attachments instead of the body for some users. MIME wrapping is probably better suited as a DMARC approach when all subscribers work for the same company using only company supplied email software to read the company mailing list. [...] Thomas Dukleth Agogme 109 E 9th Street, 3D New York, NY 10003 USA http://www.agogme.com +1 212-674-3783 _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Unsubscribe: https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
