begin  quoting Todd Walton as of Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 11:54:32AM -0800:
> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:47:11 -0800, Stewart Stremler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > nohup sudo dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda & exit
> > 
> > -Stewart "Not tried it. Ought to try it. Surely it'll work?" Stremler
> 
> Depends on the filesystem you're using, but you'd probably want to
> overwrite the hard drive several times.  I was reading a magazine
> article in 2000 that said forensics people can read data from a hard
> drive that's been overwritten up to 9 times.  Surely that number has
> gone up since then.  (The 9, not the 2000.)

Carl raises a good point.
 
> But wouldn't the command drop out at some point (before completing)
> due to it or the kernel trying to access disk and finding trash?  dd
> might even overwrite itself, if it's in swap.

Gus reminded me that I *have* seen this done.

> And then there's the whole waiting-for-random-data thing.  "Please
> wait to crash in my door while I wiggle my mouse around."  May as well
> make it /dev/zero.

You'd think they'd start shipping motherboards "randomness" chips by
now.  Didn't some of the old architectures have this? (Sample thermal
noise or somesuch.)

-Stewart "101 things to do with a cluster you're about to rebuild" Stremler
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