----- Original Message ----- From: "Lan Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Main Discussion List for KPLUG" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Google office (Microsoft officals predict) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 07:32:27 -0700
> > On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 07:44:22PM -0700, Wade Curry wrote: > > Randall Shimizu([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Thu, May 05, 2005 at > > 04:23:56PM -0800: > > > Microsoft has mad so many people unhappy that it's afraid of any > > > competition. So the only way to defend themselves is extend and > > > embrace and try to lock people in. That is essentially what .NET > > > is all about. Bill Gates publicly admitted that Microsoft > > > protocols were designed to be propietary to thwart > > > interoperability. This is why Microsoft is on this patenting > > > binge. Now that it is harder to lock customers with propietary > > > protocols they can dersail OSS and other competitors with IP > > > patents. So in other words public IP now becomes private. > > > I would like to see a reference to that public admission. Such an > > admission would be equivalent to saying, "customers can go to hell, > > we'd rather block their main concern of compatibility so they can > > share, than possibly compete in any respectable fashion." Here is some links that delve extensively into that: (http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/f2600/2613r.pdf ) (http://www.theregister.co.uk/1998/12/06/analysis_how_bill_gates_discovered/ ) (http://www.procompetition.org/headlines/WhitePaper6_21.pdf ) I don't know if you are new the field, but Microsoft's has long history of using protocols and api's to try and lock customers in: 1.After Microsoft licensed the win-32s api IBM for use in OS/2 the changed api no less than 6 times in a 3 month period to prevent OS/2 from running Windows applications......... 2.Microsoft purposely corrupted the MS-JVM and came out with J++ language for the sole purpose of dividing and disrupting the Java market. 3.Microsoft is a convicted monopolist. 4.Windows Media player format is being used to lock people into the Windows platform since it runs on Windows only. Microsoft is trying to extend it's reach into movie field with WMP cinema edition. 5.Protocols such as Active directory run only on Windows. Supposed AD is LDAP compliant, but since it does not use standard object id's so one is required to a meta-directory product. 6.Much or most of the Microsoft products require the use their technologies or products such as AD or IIS. > > I don't see many people saying that they feel locked in, though. > > They may be irritated at times if sharing data with a Mac or Linux > > user doesn't work as it should. Unfortunately, the real "lock-in" > > is in the form of a mild delusion. When a person has those kinds > > of difficulties, they automatically assume the other platform is > > the broken one. > > > > I was shocked at how quickly my company lined up to go C# and .NET. It's > been the source of several problems, predictably ... but our developers > couldn't wait to do it. What problems have you been having.....??? If you work in a all Windows shop then I am not suprised at all. > > Delusional indeed. > > -- > Lan Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Linux Guy, SCM Specialist 858-354-0616 > > > -- > [email protected] > http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
