On Sunday 09 October 2005 08:33 pm, DJA wrote: > George Georgalis wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 10:17:42PM -0700, Lan Barnes wrote: > >>On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 12:52:23AM -0400, George Georgalis wrote: > >>>Don't be silly. The charter of the "list" is contrary to issues > >>>of fair use. As a matter of course, I note header info when I > >>>take code from a list, but it would be hard to demonstrate why it > >>>wouldn't be public domain. > >>> > >>>LICENSE: This message is licensed only to those who agree with it, > >>>any disagreement automatically revokes any and all rights to use > >>>or distribute any likeness of this message. > >> > >>What a ridiculous (and unenforceable) license. I have to agree with > >>something to repeat it? If you say something really stupid, I'm not > >>allowed to say later, "hey, wanna hear the stupid thing he said?" > > > > Of course. I was expressing how silly applying > > restrictions to a list post really is. BTW - I said > > fair use, but if the term really only applies to old > > works... I meant you are implying public domain by > > posting. > > > > What kind of judge would uphold copyright claims of > > an author distributing his property on a public help > > forum? > > > > // George > > I agree. If I stand on a street corner and tell anyone within earshot > what I think of some <whatever>, I can't expect to be able to claim some > kind of controlled dissemination of that information. Neither can I, > should I suddenly realize I've said something embarrassing, reasonably > expect everyone who heard me to refrain from telling others my secret, > let alone expect them forget it themselves. > > If you say something in a /public/ forum. It's PUBLICly available. It > seems to me that that is the basis for slander and libel: someone says > or prints something in /public/. If you commit slander or libel, you > don't get to just "take it back". > > And I would expect mailing lists on which the public at large is > eligible to participate are no exception. > > If you don't want others passing your oh-so-valuable secrets around to > just anyone, either make them sign a contract stipulating they won't do > so, or keep it to yourself. > > -- > Best Regards, > ~David "It's as safe with me as it was with you" Allen.
Not a direct response to the above comments but simply a place to hook into this long thread .. Yahoo provides a concrete example of licensing: 8. CONTENT SUBMITTED OR MADE AVAILABLE FOR INCLUSION ON THE SERVICE Yahoo! does not claim ownership of Content you submit or make available for inclusion on the Service. However, with respect to Content you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Service, you grant Yahoo! the following world-wide, royalty free and non-exclusive license(s), as applicable: See http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ for details. boblq -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
