Andrew Lentvorski wrote:
Tracy R Reed wrote:
Andrew Lentvorski wrote:
Brian wrote:
If the best job one can accept is "crap", isn't that motivation to improve one's skills and/or job options?

Spoken like someone who never had a relative work in the mills or the mines.

How do you think my relatives got out of the mills/mines?

Clarify, please.

My grandfathers, *themselves*, didn't get out of the mills or the mines. But they made sure that the *next* generation didn't have to work there.

My grandparents accepted that *hazardous* job for the benefit of the next generation, not themselves. Even had my grandfathers improved their skills, it is unlikely they could have broken out of their situation without extraordinary luck.

They did good... Cheers to the Gramps'


In addition, my paternal grandfather emigrated from Hungary. The really rotten jobs in the mill *were* a step up. That's how bad Hungary was ...

That makes you a real "Hunky"! My best friend back in Michigan AND his wife are Hungarian and we get a big laugh out of that. In addition, and you are gonna love this, his dad worked for Great Lakes Steel his whole life and built a bucolic life for his family right in the shadows of the "Arsenal of Democracy" in downriver Detroit...
The old abandoned steelworks...
http://tinyurl.com/3aqhm3
And just north along the railtracks...

The bucolic part is the island just to the east with the effective moat around it to keep almost all the bad stuff out from the region.


If you ever get a chance to visit a museum about one of the big steel towns, I recommend that you go. It's especially rather eye-opening for a lot of people to hear the current insults about the Mexican-American community being hurled at their own ancestors alomst 100 years ago ("They don't assimilate." "They send all the money back to another country." "They take all the good jobs." etc.).

http://www.jaha.org/DiscoveryCenter/virtualtour.html

-a


rbw


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