Nice write up.

rbw wrote:

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For those who choose Upgrade rather than Install (i.e. just update existing system without formatting) you should know that there is a very nasty bug which tends to hang the install on probably half of all installees:

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=372011

The workaround for me was (as per comment #82) was to enter this

linux updates=http://katzj.fedorapeople.org/updates-f8-yumloop.img

after escaping from the opening screen. You must still have the CD/DVD in the drive as the installation will still be done from that media. This worked fine for me after untold hours of trying other workarounds (over the course of 3 days).

I had no other problems during the upgrade after this point.

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YumEx
Move the mouse or it won't continue. Don't do everything at once. Read the help web pages and do updates/downloads/installs on as few apps/categories as possible at a time. This is very, very annoying. You really can't walk away if you ask it to do more than a couple items at a time. Custom kernel compiling and distro installing was less annoying

Yes the Keep-moving-the-mouse-every-30-seconds thing is annoying and has been around since at least FC6. This is also necessary during the F8 install process BTW (at least if you choose upgrade).

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WPC55AG:
It has worked before under FC6 but just like before I am going to have to get an advanced, lock myself away, jump into the deep end, self training on the vagaries of wpa_supplicant, Madwifi, and maybe even ndis-wrapper. Fortunately (or not since I lack motivation since my work around works), I have a very inelegant workaround that dispenses with fickle wireless cards altogether[1]. In other words this is your worst time choking nightmare. This is an activity for total dedication to the problem and apparently no one can make heads or tails of how what they did to get things to work is at all relevant to what you are going through. Screw 'em all... I have Open Source stuff that lets you think out of the box to solve a problem.

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rb (YMMV but I bet you get at least as far as I did ;^) w

[1] Screw the whole screwed up wificard situation. Here is what works every time... No If, Ands or Buts. I have 2 Buffalo wireless AP/Routers (or 2 appropriate old Linksys WRT54G units) that I carry with me running DD-WRT and talking to each other via WDS. I plug one unit into whatever network I am working with connecting the LAN port if I want to bridge (i.e. get an address from the already installed DHCP server), Or connecting the WAN port to the local network if I want/need to route. Then I wire the laptop to the other unit and which allows me to go anywhere the two units can still see each other which is a whole heck of a lot father than one wifi network/AP and wificard can go. While it isn't elegant, it all fits into a backpack, power strips, laptop (big ol' thing), and all AND: 1.) I don't need no stinkin' wireless keys that someone doesn't want to give up anyway. 2.) I don't have to worry about the low, low power on that PCMCIA or built in laptop wireless device. 3.) The cost is LESS than the price of a new wireless card (if you have 2 and I'm looking at 3 of them right now). 4.) The setup is infinitely less complicated especially if you use the whole setup (as I normally do) in "bridge" or "pass through" mode... AND I implement strong encryption between the 2 AP's (I'm thinking of even doing RADIUS one day) between the 2 router units which is almost always better than what some poor beleaguered sysadmin can do with his network system and whose time is a slave to the problems of his WinDoze boxes...

I have done this also. A nice alternative to the above routers is two of the D-Link WLG730's. This is a ~credit card-sized gem that can be used (via a 3-position switch on the bottom/back) as either a Wifi AP client (i.e. wifi card), an AP, or a full-fledged wireless router/firewall. It's also a wireless-Ethernet bridge. It connects to an existing network (PC or LAN) through an Ethernet port. Access is through a typical web interface. BTW, it supports WPA/WPA2 just fine.

It comes with a 6' flat CAT5 cable, very small power supply (size of typical cell phone PS) and an adapter cable so that it's power can come from a USB port. All packed in a nice little leatherette zippered bag the size of a small shaving kit. You could carry just the components in one pocket (okay, Cargo-pants pocket). At least one of these goes wherever my laptop goes. All I can say is, this thing is bitchin.

Given what this thing does, it shows that the only reason the typical home wireless firewall/router is so big, is to accommodate the 5-port switch connectors.

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