begin  quoting Martin Franco as of Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:31:41PM -0700:
> On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 02:54:14PM -0700, Andrew Lentvorski wrote:
> > It's kind of ironic that the LGPL which RMS so despises may turn out to  
> > offer better freedom than the GPL since no businesses are interested in  
> > a dual-license model when someone could just fork the code anyhow.
>
> If the LGPL allows businesses to declare themselves supporters of free
> software, yet not allow the community the freedom to fork the code, how
> is this more freedom?  How can a less free license result in more
> freedom in any situation?  I can see access to more source code, but
> that isn't the same.

Having no options is not more freedom than having more options.

The GPL discourages* businesses from producing software -- there's no
good way to recoup costs.  Third-party vendors can, will, and do
undercut your training prices; printed manuals are passe, and people
want electronic manuals instead; media will be duplicated, and shared
in a heartbeat.

Nothing wrong with programmers making a decent wage as programmers.

The LGPL lets a company attempt to recoup development costs while
marketing software to the open-source community.  The GPL isn't
nearly so friendly in that regard, which results in LESS choice
for the end-user.

And since having fewer alternatives is a reduction in freedom... any
mechanism that increases the user's choices adds to their practical
freedom.

> I don't see how multi-licensing is relevent either.  If you can obtain
> the software under one license you like, like the GPL, then the other
> licenses do not apply to you.  If the company goes out of business or
> changes the licensing terms, you still have the last free software
> version to continue development if you want.  And if you can't get the
> software under a free license, then it is not free software.

That's just expanding the potential user-base. Why should the BSD fans
have to infect their systems with the GPL virus, just because the GPL
weenies are a larger demographic?

*Note that I'm not saying prohibit; but in general, the market is pretty
damn small, especially outside of hardware vendors.
-- 
I find the LGPL superior (in principle) to the GPL.
Stewart Stremler


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