On Sun, July 20, 2008 1:56 pm, David Brown wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 01:34:41PM -0700, Lan Barnes wrote:
>
>>> That branch names and directory names share the same namespace means
>>> that
>>> P4 can't tell the difference between a file rename and a branch.  So,
>>> if
>>> you have branched a tree that has renames in it, you basically have to
>>> track down what happened, and "do the right thing", for every single
>>> file.
>>
>>You're doing it wrong. Don't do an add, integrate it. That keeps the
>> history.
>
> That's what I meant.  p4 integrate is used for both branching and renaming
> files.  When both happen in the same directory it needs a lot of help.
>
> Earlier you said:
>
>> This strikes me as a merge issue...
>
> Maybe that is the issue that gets missed.  To me, merging is primary
> purpose of having branches.  Just being able to have divergent versions of
> the code is only a very limited use of what branches are for.  When the
> VCS
> can't keep track of merges between them, they are of limited use, or at
> best, a complete pain to do anything with.  Being a complete pain
> translates to them not being used very much.
>
>>I believe they have a totally different schema/structure inside. I can't
>>prove it.
>
> Under the hood, they are very different, but that's like saying two
> filesystem implementations use different representations on disk.  What
> primarily matters are the semantics the VCS presents.
>
> Realizing this distinction is one of the real nifty things Linus did with
> git.  Computing deltas was implemented well after much of the system was
> already working.  The semantics didn't change at all, it just started
> representing the data better.
>
> The negative consequence of this implementation approach is that the
> user-experience part of git is still gradually growing.  Most of the "git
> is too hard to learn" is not really the case any more, and what's left is
> being worked on.
>
> David
>

Oh s#$t, you're makin' me think. <TIME OUT, DAMN IT>

Guess I have to look at git to see what's up.

Some day I would really like to, you know, _learn_ something and then have
it stay where it is.

-- 
Lan Barnes

SCM Analyst              Linux Guy
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