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Louis, MO Author Joey Lott (Programming Flex 3) will be presenting Flex, Actionscript, and Flash. Space is limited so please RSVP. <http://www.as3apex.com/as3/joey-lott-is-coming-to-stlouis-on-october-4th> Sean Duggan Presents a Week-Long Seminar: "Real World Digital Photography, Session 2" Oct 5-11, 2008 Rockport, ME Sean Duggan's (The Creative Digital Darkroom) week-long seminar is a follow-up to the popular Real World Digital Photography Seesion 1 class. Designed to take up where the previous class left off, this course concentrates on more advanced topics relating to photography with digital SLRs and improving images with Adobe Photoshop. <http://www.theworkshops.com/catalog/courses/index.asp?CourseID=2840&SchoolID=20> Java Power Tools Bootcamp in Brisbane Oct 6-9, 2008 Brisbane, Australia The Java Power Tools bootcamp is taught by John Ferguson Smart (Java Power Tools). The bootcamp is an intense 4-day hands-on workshop covering some of the best open source tools for Java development on the market. The course takes you on a in-depth guided tour of some of the best open source Java tools, showing how you can use them individually and together to write code better and faster, and have fun while you're doing it! <http://www.wakaleo.com/training/java-power-tools-bootcamp/brisbane-6-9-october> Julia Lerman at SDC Amsterdam Oct 6-7, 2008 Leeuwenhorst Conference Centre Noordwijkerhout , The Netherlands Author Julia Lerman (Programming Entity Framework) presents Introductory and Advanced sessions on Entity Framework at the Software Development Conference 2008 in the Netherlands. <http://www.sdc.nl/> Nancy Duarte Presents "The slide:ology Basic Course" Oct 6-6, 2008 Duarte Design Mountain View, CA Author Nancy Duarte (slide:ology) will be giving a full-day seminar jam-packed with design fundamentals, tips and tricks, interactive brainstorming and plenty of great visual examples to deconstruct. The morning will kick off with an inspirational keynote and then delve into content from the book slide:ology. You'll have your head around the concepts at this point, so we'll facilitate interactive exercises that will cement in you a new way of approaching your next presentation. <http://slideology.com/seminars/> Stephen Johnson -- Fundamentals of Digital Photography: The Basics, and Way Beyond Oct 8-9, 2008 Stephen Johnson Photography Studios Pacifica, CA Join Stephen Johnson (Stephen Johnson on Digital Photography) for a workshop that includes the origins of electronic imaging, hardware, input/scanning, digital cameras, and more. <http://www.sjphoto.com/beg_wksp_frameset.html> FOWA, London Oct 9-10, 2008 London Excel London, UK FOWA London is Europe's biggest Web 2.0 Event with over 3000 of Europe's leading developers, designers and entrepreneurs attending to get Carsonified and discover the latest company, platform and product developments in web applications. Among the speakers, do not miss Kathy Sierra who along with her partner created the Head First Series. <http://london2008.futureofwebapps.com/> Joey Lott at Cleveland Flex User's Group Oct 9, 2008 Cleveland, OH Author Joey Lott (Programming Flex 3) will be presenting Flex, Actionscript, and Flash. http://www.clefug.com/#app=be07&aec8-selectedIndex=2> Steven Pritchard and Tom Limoncelli at Ohio LinuxFest Oct 10-11, 2008 Greater Columbus Convention Center Columbus, Ohio Author Steven Pritchard (LPI Linux Certification in a Nutshell) will be teaching a one-day LPI Certification "cram" class. Author Tom Limoncelli (Time Management for System Administrators) will be presenting two tutorials, "Time Management for System Administrators" and "Interviewing and Hiring Great Technical People". <http://www.ohiolinux.org/olfu.html#lp> Joey Lott at Central PA Adobe User Group & Central PA Flash User Group Oct 10, 2008 Harrisburg, PA Author Joey Lott (Programming Flex 3) will be presenting "How To Architect Flex Applications." <http://cenpennaug.blogspot.com/2008/08/adobe-flex-3-author-joey-lott-to-speak.html> Dru Lavigne at NYCBSDCon in New York City Oct 11-12, 2008 New York City, NY Dru Lavigne (BSD Hacks) will at NYC BSDCon 2008 in Columbia University in New York City. She will be giving a tutorial on system administration as well as proctoring the BSDA exam. Keep an eye out for her! <http://www.nycbsdcon.org/> Julia Lerman at DevConnections Oct 11-13, 2008 Mandalay Bay Conference Center Las Vegas, NV Julia Lerman (Programming Entity Framework) will present a full-day Entity Framework pre-conference workshop as well as two sessions during the DevConnections conference. <http://www.devconnections.com/> Stephen Johnson -- Yosemite Valley in Autumn Oct 11-14, 2008 Yosemite View Lodge Yosemite, CA Join Stephen Johnson (Stephen Johnson on Digital Photography) for a field workshop in Yosemite Valley. Enrollment limited to 12 people. <http://www.sjphoto.com/digital-photo-wksp-land-yosfall.html> Rick Sammon Leads a Week-Long Photography Workshop in Maine Oct 12-18, 2008 Maine Join Rick Sammon (Face to Face) in Maine as he leads a photography workshop on capturing the seasons. Following a day of shooting, the classes will continue with Photoshop & Lightroom instruction in the digital labs. The class size is limited to 15 participants, so register soon! <http://www.theworkshops.com/catalog/courses/coursepage.asp?CourseID=3033&SchoolID=20&CatID=337&Tab=1> Julia Lerman presents on Entity Framework at DevReach 2008, Sofia Oct 13-14, 2008 International Exhibition Center Sofia, Bulgaria Julia Lerman (Programming Entity Framework) presents Introductory and Advanced sessions on Entity Framework at the DevReach 2008 Conference. <http://www.devreach.com/> Scott Berkun at User Interface Engineering Oct 14-16, 2008 Cambridge, MA Author Scott Berkun (The Myths of Innovation, Making Things Happen) presents a full day workshop entitled "The Myths of Innovation: How to Lead Breakthrough Projects". <http://www.uie.com/events/uiconf/2008/seminars/berkun/> Jesse Liberty Presents a Webcast: From DB to Display in the Data-Grid with Silverlight Oct 15, 2008 In this live presentation Silverlight Geek Jesse Liberty (Programming Silverlight 2 and Programming .NET 3.5) will demonstrate how to extract data from a SQL database using LINQ, make it available through a Web Service, and create a Silverlight Application that consumes that data and makes it visible to the user in a vivid and interactive way. <http://msevents.microsoft.com/CUI/WebCastEventDetails.aspx?EventID=1032381762&EventCategory=4&culture=en-US&CountryCode=US> Christopher Schmitt at the Web Design and Developer Conference Oct 15-15, 2008 Orlando World Center Marriott Resort Orlando, FL Web Designers feel comfortable with complex digital imaging software such as Photoshop and Illustrator and marking up pages with XHTML CSS. However, to break through a static Web page, today's Web designer needs to work with JavaScript to add interactivity and custom usability enhancements, which can be intimidating for right-brain thinkers. In this session, author Christopher Schmitt (CSS Cookbook, Releasing CSS) covers how JavaScript frameworks like jQuery can save time, hair loss and still add the cool. <http://www.mogo-media.com/conferences/the-web-design-conference/2008/orlando/> Douglas Crockford at the Bay Area Functional Programmers Oct 15, 2008 Hi5, 55 2nd Street, Suite 300 San Francisco, CA Author Douglas Crockford (JavaScript: The Good Parts) will be presenting "Functional JavaScript." <http://www.bayfp.org/blog/2008/09/19/october-15th-douglas-crockford-on-functional-javascript/> Nitesh Dhanjani at Microsoft Blue Hat v8 Oct 16-17, 2008 Redmond, WA Nitesh Dhanjani (Network Security Tools) talks about how your online persona and activity can be tracked, correlated and used to influence behavior at Microsoft's Blue Hat Security Conference. <http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/cc748656.aspx> Martin Nystrom at Triangle InfoSeCon Oct 16-16, 2008 McKimmon Conference and Training Center at NC State University Raleigh, NC Author Martin Nystrom (SQL Injection Defenses) and Dave Schwartzburg will present "Monitor the Monitors", based on a chapter from the forthcoming O'Reilly book, "Practical Information Security Monitoring." <http://raleigh.issa.org/conference.html> Dux Raymond Sy at PMI Global Congress North America 2008 Oct 19-19, 2008 Hyatt Regency Denver at the Colorado Convention Center Denver, CO Author Dux Raymond Sy, PMP (SharePoint for Project Management) presents "Ways to Leverage SharePoint for Project Management Success" at the Exhibitor Educational Presentation (EEP) of the PMI Global Congress North America 2008. The 90-minute presentation will showcase the benefits of SharePoint in addressing critical project management challenges in the areas of project communication, document management and project team collaboration. Project Management Professionals (PMP) can earn 1.5 Professional Development Units for participation if they attend the full session. <http://congresses.pmi.org/NorthAmerica2008/TheCongress/Exhibitors/LEEPs.cfm> Gordon Meyer at Magic & Meaning Conference Oct 22-25, 2008 Las Vegas, Nevada Gordon Meyer (Smart Home Hacks) will speak about home automation at Magic and Meaning 2008. The conference takes place at McBride's Magic School, a leading center for training magicians. <http://www.magicalwisdom.com/details.php?id=381> Joey Lott at the Philadelphia Flex User Group Oct 22, 2008 Philadelphia, PA Author Joey Lott (Programming Flex 3) will be presenting Flex, Actionscript, and Flash. <http://www.phflex.org/> O'Reilly at PhotoPlus Expo Oct 23-25, 2008 Jacob Javits Convention Center New York, NY Stop by the O'Reilly booth (# 448) and meet our editors, check out our newest titles, and listen to live podcast interviews. While you're there, enter our drawing for a chance to win $500 in O'Reilly books. <http://www.photoplusexpo.com/> John Papa at Day of Silverlight 2.0 Oct 24-24, 2008 Microsoft Office -- 5426 Bay Center Drive, Suite 700 Tampa, FL Author John Papa (Data Services with Silverlight 2) will be speaking at this free event hosted by Microsoft. He will be speaking on the following topics: Data Binding Foundations, Notifications, Modes, Lists, and Value Converters: - Consuming SOAP with WCF and ASMX, POX and REST services, and Syndication - LINQ to XML & LINQ to JSON - Building REST styled services with Silverlight to 3rd Party API's - Using Visual Studio and Blend and to develop Silverlight applications <http://msevents.microsoft.com/CUI/EventDetail.aspx?EventID=1032387218&culture=en-US> ================================================ Conferences and Special Events ================================================ Maker Faire Austin Tickets on Sale--October 18 and 19, 2008 Travis County Event Center and Fairground Maker Faire is a two-day, family-friendly event that celebrates the Do-It-Yourself (DIY) mindset. It's for creative, resourceful people of all ages and backgrounds who like to tinker and love to make things. http://www.makerfaire.com/ New this year, RoboGames bring battling bots to Austin for the first ever texas cup. http://www.makerfaire.com/austin/2008/robogames/info/ Ticket information: <http://www.makerfairetickets.com/> Web 2.0 Expo Call for Participation Is Now Open, San Francisco--March 31-April 3 Now in its third year, Web 2.0 Expo is for the builders of the next generation web: designers, developers, entrepreneurs, marketers, business strategists, and venture capitalists. We look not only for the hot new thing, but for the failures to learn from, the innovations and inspirations, the successes that will surprise you, and the practical applications of all of the above. Call closes midnight 10/08/2008 PDT. <http://en.oreilly.com/webexsf2009/public/cfp/42> MySQL Conference & Expo Call for Participation Is Now Open, Santa Clara, CA--April 20-23 The MySQL Conference & Expo is the largest gathering of MySQL developers, users, and DBAs worldwide. For the 2009 edition, we'd like to explore advanced development techniques, enterprise database administration and security, VLDB and massive data warehouse administration, advanced BI technology, pluggable storage engine development, replication and scale-out solutions, and more. Call closes midnight PST October 22. Early registration will open in December. <http://mysqlconf.com> Register for iPhoneLive, San Jose, CA--November 18 iPhoneLive will be a gathering of the best and brightest participants in the iPhone ecosystem today. Whether you're already building apps for the iPhone or are a developer who wants to make a move to the iPhone platform; if you're an entrepreneur or simply an enthusiast of the emerging iPhone industry, this is the event for you. It's going to be a mind-blowing day filled with information that you just can't get anywhere else. We'll cover development issues from coding to release, as well as general market information and lessons learned from leading iPhone developers and entrepreneurs. Use code "ip08gd20" when you register, and receive 20% off the registration price. To register for the conference, go to: <https://en.oreilly.com/iphonelive2008/public/register> Ignite If you had five minutes on stage what would you say? What if you only got 20 slides and they rotated automatically after 15 seconds? Around the world geeks have been putting together Ignite nights to show their answers. <http://ignite.oreilly.com/> Create your own Ignite in your area. 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Read more to see how author Rich Rosen both suggested and helped write the newest edition of "Mac OS X for Unix Geeks." <http://fyi.oreilly.com/2008/09/one-way-to-become-an-author-fo.html> iPhone Forensics 101: Bypassing the iPhone Passcode Video Recently, Jonathan Zdziarski, author of the just-released "iPhone Forensics," delivered a much-talked about presentation on bypassing the iPhone 3G passcode, in which he revealed some little known "security" issues pertaining to that device. Most notable was the fact that the iPhone captures and stores screenshots of any place you visit on the web (using your iPhone, of course). The recording is now ready for viewing. http://fyi.oreilly.com/2008/09/iphone-forensics-101-recording.html Work on Stuff That Matters--Tim O'Reilly @ Web 2.0 Tim O'Reilly, founder of O'Reilly Media, didn't mince words as he addressed the crowd at Web 2.0 Expo in New York City. 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She's been shooting them ever since, including this year in Beijing. <http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2008/09/11/aperture-kasapoglu-in-beijing.html> Slashdot: Wall Street's Collapse Is Computer Science's Gain "Thanks to Wall Street's implosion, the chairman of Stanford University's Computer Science Department says he is seeing more interest from students in computer science. Ditto at Boston College. Computer science enrollments crashed after the dot-com bust as students turned to hedge fund majors." <http://news.slashdot.org/news/08/09/28/1824232.shtml> The Creative Suite Conference in Orlando, FL is coming up and they've kindly offered a UG discount Held in conjunction with the Web Design & Developer conference and Create Chaos, The Creative Suite Conference, October 13-16, is the premiere event for designers using Adobe Creative Suite. Experts will deliver in-depth sessions covering print-based, web, and mobile workflows, as well as XML and cross-media solutions. 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