James G. Sack (jim) wrote:

> I'm thinking it would be kinda nice if the meeting were broken up so
> that it's not _all_ tutorial in nature.

I think you are probably right. Maybe we need to divide the meeting
into two parts. The first half can be tutorial and the second half
some advanced topic. The newbies may be bored the second half and the
more advanced members will be a little bored the first half.


> Even a short break for some gee-whiz or didknowaboutthis application
> would reduce the squirm factor.

I agree.

> ==> This would be a good way for people to contribute back without
> feeling he has to be a universal-wizard.

Yeah, and if we follow the Beginning Linux document, even those who
aren't very imaginative will know what to talk about. They can use
their imagination to expand the information.

> ==> Maybe *someone* with people and organizational skills could take
> on
> an ongoing role as coordinator of short presentations of this type.
> Maybe it could be rotating short-term job. ...???...

Not me.

> But returning to your immediate question/proposal.. You have an ok
> from
> me. I've been giving a bit of odd-moments thought about node5/6
> anyway.
> In fact I might like to write something along the lines of background
> information that (maybe) could be linked to from (but not be in) the
> main text. I was thinking of things like
>   what is a shell, what is it's purpose
>   what exactly happens when I run a command
>   how is that different from clicking on XYZ

All good ideas, but I would like them to be included in the document,
somehow. I have gotten more email from visitors to my site about that
one document than anything else. It seems to be a popular document for
newbies, if they find it.

> I also think I might like to contribute some new mainline text under
> node34 (shortcuts). Maybe even split that node or insert another one
> including things along the lines of
>   you don't really expect me to remember all that, do you?
>   how to learn a little, find a little
>   tricks to achieve "forgotten but not lost"
>   how to customize your own command line usage (eg aliases, etc)

The node numbers are created when you convert from the original format
in lyx to html. They change when the document changes. No reason why
you couldn't just add to what's there. In fact changes of all sorts
are welcome.

> Do you like these ideas?
> Anyone else want a bite of either of these?

Maybe someone, with more experience, would be willing to set up and
configure subversion on the server so that we can upload this document
and begin collaborating on it. Maybe we should divide it into pieces,
perhaps chapters and manage them separately. I produced the original
in lyx, because it was my word processor of choice and it's easy to
convert from lyx to html, pdf, ps or many other formats.

Anyone want to volunteer to set up subversion on the server?

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