*/ Randy: /**/
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/**/Yes, I answered you and got your first reply - then I sent another
email 3 days ago asking more and requesting pictures, but no answer to
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I did a check on the registration and see that you are in or near Ft
Worth - I have a son living
in NE Dallas area, not that far from where the plane is (I guess). I do
visit him now and then, so could trailer
it but the prospect of dragging a trailer that far isn't very thrilling
to this old man ... but that beats trusting
a 20 year old prop reduction drive belt, if it is the original belt!
/*Maybe can talk him into trailering it for me.*//*
*//**/
Wonder what is making that bird so heavy? Do you think it is the Subaru
installation, or something else?
Even with that engine it seems that should not be that terribly overweight.
While I have owned and flown a homebuilt before (Starduster Too), I
have not bought any plane without logs or
the original airworthiness limitation papers, so have no idea what that
would do to trying to make it legal again once
it was fixed up and flyable. If you have any idea, please pass that
info along.
More questions:
Were the cowl, spinner and wheel pants damaged or just dinged up
over time?
Assuming you have personally flown it more than once, what is your
honest opinion of it as
regards handling and speeds? Does the weight make things hairy?
You mentioned the landing speed, but is it slow in the air as well?
Any odd behavior or worrying habits?
Too sensitive controls?
Does is have a comm radio and transponder with mode C? If so,
what make and model are they? Maybe a picture of the panel
would help.
I'm an old guy, so could you help load it on a trailer?
What width and length trailer would it take, considering wheel
wells might be in the way?
I found a couple more pictures of it online, from when it was fairly new
back in the late 90's. It certainly looked very
nice then, and appears to have been a product of quality work - which
again makes me wonder why it is heavy. It
looks very slick, so could it be lots of filler and finishing, maybe?
You may have already had conversations with
Les about that, and if so then he should have had a pretty good idea, I
would think.
One note under a picture said that it has wing tanks - or maybe it was
center section tanks - but nothing said
about a fuselage header tank being present or not. That info would be
helpful, plus the total fuel capacity.
I will wait for some current pictures, if you would not mind passing
them along.
Thanks again for the quick response and information.
George
On 5/22/2015 4:36 PM, Randy Smith via KRnet wrote:
> If anyone asked about the KR That I have for sale and did not get an answer
> let me know. We think we got my computer to send out pictures again. Only 4
> at a time. Really want to move this plane. for those that asked I live in
> Fort Worth Tx Airport is T67
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> 1. Re: Ballast Weight Installation (Sid Wood)
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> 4. Re: Weight and balance (CraigW)
> 5. Re: Weight and balance (Flesner)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 19:47:10 -0400
> From: "Sid Wood" <smwood at md.metrocast.net>
> To: <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> Subject: Re: KR> Ballast Weight Installation
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> I had previously reported that I would need to add 49 pounds ballast at the
> engine area to meet my goal of moving the cg 3 inches forward on my KR-2 .
> I had reported some erroneous numbers for the weight and location of the
> elevator balance weight. The correct numbers are 4.71 pounds with an arm of
> 95 inches. The nose ballast location is still 23 inches forward of the stub
> wing leading edge. Doing the math: 4.71 x 95 / 23 = 19.45 pounds ballast.
> By removing the elevator balance weight with its mounting and bolts, I will
> not need that 19.45 pounds of ballast in the nose.
> For the ELT move from the baggage shelf to the cockpit floor forward of the
> spar: The ELT with batteries and rack weighs 3.5 pound. The arm at the
> baggage shelf is centered at 60 inches. The new location is centered at 0
> inches arm. No weight loss with moving the ELT, but the previously needed
> ballast would be 3.5 x 60 / 23 = 9.1 pounds, now no longer needed.
> With the removal of the elevator balance weight and move of the ELT, the
> current ballast is now: 49 - 19.45 - 9.1 = 20.45 pounds.
>
> A pound or two at long moment arms does make a big difference.
>
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD, USA
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 17:26:57 -0700
> From: dean choitz <ddchoitz at gmail.com>
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> Weight and balance
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> Has anyone ever tried to support the airplane under the stub wing and lift
> up on it with the wings attached tail feathers completed get in the plane
> engine on the firewall fuel empty fuel full that's the way I did it in the
> radio control airplane days or would something break or poke a hole in the
> wing perhaps maybe a support block could be made under the wing to keep
> from pushing through just seems like an easy way to accurately measure your
> weight and balance center of lift any thoughts
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 17:54:40 -0700
> From: Dave Acklam <dave.a.krnet at gmail.com>
> To: KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> Subject: Re: KR> Weight and balance
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> You will punch through and a block will crush foam...
>
> Iirc w&b is best done with 3 scales, one under each wheel... You can then
> calculate cg from the weight diff
> On May 20, 2015 5:27 PM, "dean choitz via KRnet" <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> wrote:
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>> Has anyone ever tried to support the airplane under the stub wing and lift
>> up on it with the wings attached tail feathers completed get in the plane
>> engine on the firewall fuel empty fuel full that's the way I did it in the
>> radio control airplane days or would something break or poke a hole in the
>> wing perhaps maybe a support block could be made under the wing to keep
>> from pushing through just seems like an easy way to accurately measure your
>> weight and balance center of lift any thoughts
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 20:55:00 -0400 (EDT)
> From: CraigW <craig at kr2seafury.com>
> To: KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> Subject: Re: KR> Weight and balance
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> Yes I do the same thing with my RC planes. I have every intention of doing it
> before I fly my plane. Because after all I am human...
>
> Craig
> www.kr2seafury.com
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> Frankenstein Lycoming powered
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>
>
>> On May 20, 2015 at 8:26 PM dean choitz via KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Has anyone ever tried to support the airplane under the stub wing and lift
>> up on it with the wings attached tail feathers completed get in the plane
>> engine on the firewall fuel empty fuel full that's the way I did it in the
>> radio control airplane days or would something break or poke a hole in the
>> wing perhaps maybe a support block could be made under the wing to keep
>> from pushing through just seems like an easy way to accurately measure your
>> weight and balance center of lift any thoughts
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 20:58:03 -0500
> From: Flesner <flesner at frontier.com>
> To: KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> Subject: Re: KR> Weight and balance
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> At 07:26 PM 5/20/2015, you wrote:
>> Has anyone ever tried to support the airplane under the stub wing and lift
>> up on it with the wings
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> If you accurately weigh and measure the airplane you can "lift the
> airplane" with pencil and paper.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 22:31:17 -0500
> From: bjoenunley <bjoenunley at gmail.com>
> To: KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> Subject: KR> Help In GA
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>
> Does anyone ?live near Peachtree Georgia? ? Or is anyone on the way to the
> Aircraftspruce East facility?
> I need a 4x4 by 1/8 inch sheet of plywood to finish ?up ?my fuselage. I will
> be driving to Atlanta GA Saturday ?night after ?aircraftspruce is closed and
> leaving before they open on Tuesday.?
> If someone could ?pick up the plywood for me and I can pick it up from you?
> ?I might be able ?to ?make it worth your ?time.?
> I know it is a lot to ask. I would greatly appreciate the help!
> JoeFlorida?
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 01:09:32 -0500
> From: Paul Visk <ppaulvsk at aol.com>
> To: KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
> Subject: Re: KR> Help In GA
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> I know that Wicks will leave stuff out in front foyer for you to pick up
> after hours. See if AC Spruce would be able?to do that.?
>
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il.
> 618-406-4705
>
> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: bjoenunley via KRnet
> <krnet at list.krnet.org> </div><div>Date:05/20/2015 10:31 PM (GMT-06:00)
> </div><div>To: KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org> </div><div>Cc: bjoenunley
> <bjoenunley at gmail.com> </div><div>Subject: KR> Help In GA </div><div>
> </div>
>
> Does anyone live near Peachtree Georgia? Or is anyone on the way to the
> Aircraftspruce East facility?
> I need a 4x4 by 1/8 inch sheet of plywood to finish up my fuselage. I will
> be driving to Atlanta GA Saturday night after aircraftspruce is closed and
> leaving before they open on Tuesday.
> If someone could pick up the plywood for me and I can pick it up from you?
> I might be able to make it worth your time.
> I know it is a lot to ask. I would greatly appreciate the help!
> JoeFlorida
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
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