I can't give you the numbers because my adrenaline was running kinda high at the time, but my engine died at 1800 ft above the airport on my first three flights (fuel vent problem). I got about 3/4 around the pattern each time, lining up with the runway and the problem was slowing it down and crabbing like hell to lose the extra altitude when I had the runway made. All in all, I was pleased with the glide ratio.
Don KR2, N118DS Houston, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: <krnet-requ...@mylist.net> To: <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 55 > Send KRnet mailing list submissions to > kr...@mylist.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > krnet-requ...@mylist.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > krnet-ow...@mylist.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: Assembler, was Newbie Questions (Doug Rupert) > 2. RE: VE resin fuel Tanks (Doug Rupert) > 3. R?f. : KR> Newbie Questions (Serge VIDAL) > 4. stub wing length question (bdazzca...@aol.com) > 5. Fuel Manifold..... (bdazzca...@aol.com) > 6. Re: stub wing length question (Glasseyegav) > 7. KR2 (A-D Aviation) > 8. Test (Colin & Bev Rainey) > 9. Glide ratio (Serge VIDAL) > 10. Shortened wings (Colin & Bev Rainey) > 11. Pics of W&B (Dan Heath) > 12. Re: stub wing length question (patrusso) > 13. Re: Pics of W&B (Dan Heath) > 14. Re: Knock out punch, Assembler, was Newbie Questions > (Dana Overall) > 15. Re: Update (Orma) > 16. Re: KR2 (Orma) > 17. Re: Sanding wing fairing (Steven Phillabaum) > 18. Shortened wings (larry flesner) > 19. stub wing length / fuel tanks (larry flesner) > 20. Re: Glide ratio (larry flesner) > 21. Re: Glide ratio (Kenneth B. Jones) > 22. R?f. : Re: KR> Glide ratio (Serge VIDAL) > 23. R?f. : Re: KR> Glide ratio (Serge VIDAL) > 24. Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Glide ratio (gleone) > 25. Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Glide ratio (gleone) > 26. Re: Réf. : Re: KR> Glide ratio (Kenneth B. Jones) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 00:07:47 -0500 > From: "Doug Rupert" <drup...@sympatico.ca> > Subject: RE: KR> Assembler, was Newbie Questions > To: <kr2coo...@earthlink.net>, "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <001401c50cd3$0af5a270$0104e440@office> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" > > > > Jack: Floats and land on the pond. As soon as the floats touch water, throw > the anchor out the canopy, then pray the rope holds. Sorry couldn't help > myself. > Doug Rupert > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 00:07:47 -0500 > From: "Doug Rupert" <drup...@sympatico.ca> > Subject: RE: KR> VE resin fuel Tanks > To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <001501c50cd3$0c6f2310$0104e440@office> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" > > > > I was reading up on VE as that is what I'm using for my tanks and the resin > supplier was quick to point out that all composite fuel tanks should be > coated on the inside with Gelcoat, the same as the marine industry has been > doing for years. Gives a smooth surface that contaminants can't stick to as > well as being totally fuel proof and improving resistance to vibration > cracking. > Doug Rupert > Simcoe Ontario > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:24:08 +0100 > From: "Serge VIDAL" <serge.vi...@sagem.com> > Subject: R?f. : KR> Newbie Questions > To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: > <ofd58b7ddb.fd97ae4c-onc1256fa1.00328800-c1256fa1.0033a...@lotus.info.sagem> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, Kirk. > > I have successfuly operated a stock KR2 at very high density altitude > (Johannesburg, South Africa: 5300' altitude, up to 35°Celsius > (95°Farenheit)). The main limitation in that case becomes runway length. > My advice to anybody planning to operate from such an altitude would be: > > 1) Build a 2S, to get better balance; > 2) Extend the wings slightly, to decrease wing loading > 3) Get yourself a climb prop (sacrifice a little bit of cruise speed, if > need be. > > Regards, > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > > > > > > "KM Urban" <kmur...@sprintmail.com> > > Envoyé par : krnet-bounces+serge.vidal=sagem....@mylist.net > 2005-02-06 01:58 > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 2005-02-06 01:59 > > > Pour : <kr...@mylist.net> > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : KR> Newbie Questions > > > > Dear List, > I am new to the list and I have been poking around the KR Net and have > found answers to alot of questions so I will try to keep this short.Just > as a point of interest, I grew up in So Cal and I used to ride my bike (as > a kid) over to Meadowlark and I would stop by the KR factory once in > awhile.I got to meet Ken when he was alive and he always had a minute for > me. When I tried to buy the plans with paper route money, he told me to > come by with my parents and he would sell plans with their blessing. Well > that was the end of that! Here I am years down the road, and I still like > the KR planes. > My questions are: How does the plane do at high density altitudes? I live > in the Salt Lake area, and it gets pretty hot in the summer. Has any one > found this to be a problem? Is it realistic to use the 2S as a traveling > machine for two people. What about a Jabaru engine? Has it been tried? > Last but not least, some know it all at Oshcosh last year was explaining > to me all the "Inherent Problems" with the KR and he said the airframe > will not last long due to cracks between the wood and composite material > in the airframe. Sounded hoaky, but I am wondering what is the highest > time airframe anyone has seen? Thanks > Kirk > kmur...@sprintmail.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 04:54:57 EST > From: bdazzca...@aol.com > Subject: KR> stub wing length question > To: kr...@mylist.net > Message-ID: <fc.c42c23a.2f389...@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > HI Netters, > > I am wondering if it is possible to make the spars longer to create > bigger fuel tanks and maybe shorten the out spars a bit. Maybe talking 6" or > so on either side. If anyone has heard of anyone doing this or thinking of > doing this let me know the outcome. I really dont feel comfortable with > 10gallons sitting in front of my face. Any advise will help. thanks > > David Swanson > _Bdazzcamro@aol.com_ (mailto:bdazzca...@aol.com) > soon too be builder > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 04:59:12 EST > From: bdazzca...@aol.com > Subject: KR> Fuel Manifold..... > To: kr...@mylist.net > Message-ID: <199.384bbbf0.2f389...@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Netters, > > I had ordered Williams engine series videos and he talks about a fuel > manifold.... does anyone know where I can buy one? I looked through Aircraft > Spruce several times and didn't find it in there. Let me Know. > > > David Swanson > _Bdazzcamro@aol.com_ (mailto:bdazzca...@aol.com) > soon to be builder > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 20:21:41 +1000 > From: "Glasseyegav" <gdono...@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: Re: KR> stub wing length question > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <000901c50cfe$d1063a80$01000...@vic.bigpond.net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Build the tanks in the outer wing panels, I've got about 38 U.S gallons in > mine and no header tank. > > Gavin > > > > > > I am wondering if it is possible to make the spars longer to > create > > bigger fuel tanks and maybe shorten the out spars a bit. Maybe talking 6" > or > > so on either side. If anyone has heard of anyone doing this or thinking > of > > doing this let me know the outcome. I really dont feel comfortable with > > 10gallons sitting in front of my face. Any advise will help. thanks > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 13:48:40 +0300 > From: A-D Aviation <adaviat...@swiftkenya.com> > Subject: KR> KR2 > To: <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <be2d2237.2b04%adaviat...@swiftkenya.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Dear members, > > Does anyone know where I can obtain an Owners Manual for a KR2 PC1 (Turbo- > retractable) 2 litre VW engine. > Tony > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 06:05:39 -0500 > From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" <crain...@cfl.rr.com> > Subject: KR> Test > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <002801c50d04$f58b3b20$9c402141@RaineyDay> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Test > > Colin & Beverly Rainey > Apex Lending, Inc. > www.eloan2004cr.com > crai...@apexlending.com > 407-323-6960 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 12:18:21 +0100 > From: "Serge VIDAL" <serge.vi...@sagem.com> > Subject: KR> Glide ratio > To: kr...@mylist.net > Message-ID: > <offfc38366.a1b2dc48-onc1256fa1.003e009b-c1256fa1.003e1...@lotus.info.sagem> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Would anybody know what the KR2's glide ratio would be? > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 06:24:44 -0500 > From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" <crain...@cfl.rr.com> > Subject: KR> Shortened wings > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <003501c50d07$9fe563f0$9c402141@RaineyDay> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Larry Flesner shortened his wings slightly, I believe by not adding the wing tip extensions past the spars, but simply closed out the wing at the end. He reports his plane flies fine. I believe Roy Marsh built the KR2S that is featured as the add picture for RR and it is also a clipped wing version, but uses a different airfoil, and had very high landing speeds compared to normal KRs, and a small window between float and drop. Unless you have some very sophisticated design software that can simulate the effect of the increased wing loading, and decreased climb rate, I would leave well enough alone. There are plenty of other ways that other builders have accomplished what you want to do. > > FLY SAFE! > > Colin & Beverly Rainey > Apex Lending, Inc. > www.eloan2004cr.com > crai...@apexlending.com > 407-323-6960 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 06:27:42 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) > From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net> > Subject: KR> Pics of W&B > To: "kr...@mylist.net" <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <420750AE.000012.02884@DANHOMECOMPUTER> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Just some pics of the W&B Process we did yesterday. Shows the plane with > white wings with ailerons for the first time. > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > has expired. > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 06:33:40 -0500 > From: "patrusso" <patru...@sover.net> > Subject: Re: KR> stub wing length question > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <004601c50d08$df6254b0$1ea772d8@patrusso> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > David, it's do-able, rather easily. However, are your garage doors wide > enough??? Will it be an extra wide load on the highway?? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bdazzca...@aol.com> > To: <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 4:54 AM > Subject: KR> stub wing length question > > > > HI Netters, > > > > I am wondering if it is possible to make the spars longer to > > create > > bigger fuel tanks and maybe shorten the out spars a bit. Maybe talking 6" > > > > David Swanson > > _Bdazzcamro@aol.com_ (mailto:bdazzca...@aol.com) > > soon too be builder > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 06:37:30 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) > From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net> > Subject: Re: KR> Pics of W&B > To: "kr...@mylist.net" <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <420752FA.000016.02884@DANHOMECOMPUTER> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Sorry, forgot the link. > > http://kr-builder.org/WeightAndBalance/index.html > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > has expired. > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > -------Original Message------- > Just some pics of the W&B Process we did yesterday. Shows the plane with > white wings with ailerons for the first time. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 06:47:22 -0500 > From: "Dana Overall" <bo12...@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: KR>Knock out punch, Assembler, was Newbie Questions > To: kr...@mylist.net > Message-ID: <bay24-f41b58f3b7132afb9af638bf4...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > >Am I the only one envisioning a flying erector set? ;) > >-- > >Steve > > > Steve, after building a KR-2 it is somewhat different. I still remember > Langford's face when I clecoed together an entire flap in something like 2.5 > minutes:-) > > And Jack, I have looked for land with a large enough flat spot for a runway > but in KY that is a rare find!! > > > > Dana Overall > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY i39 > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" > Finish kit > 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg > http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg > do not archive > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 07:31:13 -0500 > From: "Orma" <o...@aviation-mechanics.com> > Subject: Re: KR> Update > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <013301c50d10$ea1045e0$0202a8c0@ROBBINS1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > 2900-3000 rpms static > > How that sound about right > Orma > Southfield, MI > N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year > Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust > http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 07:39:29 -0500 > From: "Orma" <o...@aviation-mechanics.com> > Subject: Re: KR> KR2 > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <013801c50d12$11cdf590$0202a8c0@ROBBINS1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Owners Manual for a KR2 PC1 > > Hello Tony > are you looking for a construction manual or POH. The construction manual > you can get from RR engineering, and someone on the net has a copy of a POH > that was made for the KR-2. There is no official POH, and anything that you > get will not be guaranteed to be accurate at all. If you want a copy of my > un official POH (copied and Plagiarized, still unfinished and not accurate) > send me a private post and I'll send you a copy. > > Orma > Southfield, MI > N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year > Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust > http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:47:37 +0000 > From: Steven Phillabaum <skp...@charter.net> > Subject: Re: KR> Sanding wing fairing > To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <3khj1h$hko...@mxip07a.cluster1.charter.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello Brian, > Here is one way. I used something like this for boat repairs only is was on a smaller scale. I'll try to put it in words. > Basically its a sanding pole but tapered. You can make it out of cardboard. or, a 3" template for one end and a 12" template for the other. Install some foam, sand, then glass. When cured stick some sandpaper on it. When you sand only use short bursts and slowly work from small radius to the large. OR you will have to just eyeball the fairing. > > Steven Phillabaum > Auburn, Alabama > > > > From: "Brian Kraut" > > I need to sand a wing root fairing foam block with about a 3" radius for > > most of the length, then go to about a 12" radius aft of the wing (this will > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 08:12:38 -0600 > From: larry flesner <fles...@midwest.net> > Subject: KR> Shortened wings > To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050207081238.00842...@pop.midwest.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > At 06:24 AM 2/7/05 -0500, you wrote: > >Larry Flesner shortened his wings slightly, I believe by not adding the > wing tip extensions past the spars, but simply closed out the wing at the > end. He reports his plane flies fine. > >Colin Rainey > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I built the stock KR2 wing but only added a 4" tip instead of the 8" tip > as the plans recommend. My KR is heavy at 760 pounds empty and > my climb is only about 800 or 900 fpm with a tired 0-200. A bit longer > wing would help in that area but I'm operating at rather low altitudes > so I probably won't mess with changing them. For now I'm getting > a good glide, a good ride, and a grin I can't hide! YEE HAAAA ! > > Sorry, the poet in me needed expressing. > > Have a good one........ > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 08:13:15 -0600 > From: larry flesner <fles...@midwest.net> > Subject: KR> stub wing length / fuel tanks > To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050207081315.00845...@pop.midwest.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > I am wondering if it is possible to make the spars longer to create > >bigger fuel tanks and maybe shorten the out spars a bit. Maybe talking 6" > or > >so on either side. > >David Swanson > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I built a 12.5 gal tank in each outboard wing panel and have no tanks > in the cockpit. I did so without changing the wing design of the stock > KR2 wing. You must realize that going this route will change the > complexity and reliability of a gravity only fuel system. I'm using an > extra (small) battery for backup power to the fuel pumps in case of > an electrical problem. I've only needed to use it once in flight at the > 12 hour point in my testing but it saved my bacon and I wouldn't fly > without it. Testing it's operation is a part of the pre-engine start > checklist on every flight. > > If you can imagine it, you can do it........... > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 08:13:38 -0600 > From: larry flesner <fles...@midwest.net> > Subject: Re: KR> Glide ratio > To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050207081338.0080e...@pop.midwest.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > At 12:18 PM 2/7/05 +0100, you wrote: > >Would anybody know what the KR2's glide ratio would be? > >Serge Vidal > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > My testing notes would indicate that my KR, 760 pounds empty, > stock KR wing with 8 inches total less span, at 70 -75 mph, > engine at idle, decending from 3500 feet to 3000 feet took about > 54 to 56 seconds. That comes out to about 550 fpm . At 70 mph > in smooth air with the engine at idle it feels like you're floating !! > > I was impressed for a 20 foot wing. > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:15:59 -0500 > From: "Kenneth B. Jones" <kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com> > Subject: Re: KR> Glide ratio > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <022401c50d1f$8d523750$8d7ba8c0@oemcomputer> > > My best distance is about 2.5 NM/1000 ft at 60 kts, but my stall speed is > about 50 kts and I'm not sure could flare at 60 kts. with no power. > That's also my best endurance, about 2.5 minutes per 1000 ft. Data was > taken at about 3000 ft on close to a standard day with a weight of 880 lbs. > My plane is a KR-2 with a 3 blade (tapered) Warp Drive prop, pretty much > standard but does have the Diehl wings, tricycle gear without gear fairing > or pants. > > Your results will surely vary. > > Ken Jones, kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com > Sharonville, OH > N5834, aka The Porkopolis Flying Pig > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Serge VIDAL" <serge.vi...@sagem.com> > To: <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 6:18 AM > Subject: KR> Glide ratio > > > > Would anybody know what the KR2's glide ratio would be? > > > > Serge Vidal > > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > > Paris, France > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:55:00 +0100 > From: "Serge VIDAL" <serge.vi...@sagem.com> > Subject: R?f. : Re: KR> Glide ratio > To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: > <of2fdf5fd3.2b402687-onc1256fa1.0050d669-c1256fa1.0051f...@lotus.info.sagem> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Well, each time I played that game with my KR2, I got more the impression > to fall like a brick! Maybe the high density altitude changed the picture > somehow. I should have measured. > > Anyway, from your figures, that would give us a glide ratio of about 1. > Not bad indeed. > > Serge Vidal > > > > > > > larry flesner <fles...@midwest.net> > > Envoyé par : krnet-boun...@mylist.net > 2005-02-07 15:13 > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 2005-02-07 15:15 > > > Pour : KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : Re: KR> Glide ratio > > > > At 12:18 PM 2/7/05 +0100, you wrote: > >Would anybody know what the KR2's glide ratio would be? > >Serge Vidal > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > My testing notes would indicate that my KR, 760 pounds empty, > stock KR wing with 8 inches total less span, at 70 -75 mph, > engine at idle, decending from 3500 feet to 3000 feet took about > 54 to 56 seconds. That comes out to about 550 fpm . At 70 mph > in smooth air with the engine at idle it feels like you're floating !! > > I was impressed for a 20 foot wing. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:58:00 +0100 > From: "Serge VIDAL" <serge.vi...@sagem.com> > Subject: R?f. : Re: KR> Glide ratio > To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: > <of84992b50.c6ffe878-onc1256fa1.00522436-c1256fa1.00523...@lotus.info.sagem> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > ... and this would give us a glide ratio of 15? > > Serge Vidal > > > > > > "Kenneth B. Jones" <kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com> > > Envoyé par : krnet-boun...@mylist.net > 2005-02-07 15:15 > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 2005-02-07 15:17 > > > Pour : "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : Re: KR> Glide ratio > > > > My best distance is about 2.5 NM/1000 ft at 60 kts, but my stall speed is > about 50 kts and I'm not sure could flare at 60 kts. with no power. > That's also my best endurance, about 2.5 minutes per 1000 ft. Data was > taken at about 3000 ft on close to a standard day with a weight of 880 > lbs. > My plane is a KR-2 with a 3 blade (tapered) Warp Drive prop, pretty much > standard but does have the Diehl wings, tricycle gear without gear fairing > > or pants. > > Your results will surely vary. > > Ken Jones, kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com > Sharonville, OH > N5834, aka The Porkopolis Flying Pig > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Serge VIDAL" <serge.vi...@sagem.com> > To: <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 6:18 AM > Subject: KR> Glide ratio > > > > Would anybody know what the KR2's glide ratio would be? > > > > Serge Vidal > > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > > Paris, France > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:08:53 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) > From: "gleone" <gle...@rtconnect.net> > Subject: Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Glide ratio > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <42078485.000003.01700@YOUR-FD6NVJCER4> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Disregard my question on weight. My e-mails log in in an "inverted" order > and the weight questino was answered in my next e-mail. I'm still waiting > for my coffee to finish boiling over. Sorry about that. > Gene in Wyoming > > "Michael Moore is living proof to never trust anyone who is bigger around > than tall!" > -------Original Message------- > > From: Serge VIDAL > Date: 02/07/05 07:55:30 > To: KRnet > Subject: Réf. : Re: KR> Glide ratio > > Well, each time I played that game with my KR2, I got more the impression > to fall like a brick! Maybe the high density altitude changed the picture > somehow. I should have measured. > > Anyway, from your figures, that would give us a glide ratio of about 1. > Not bad indeed. > > Serge Vidal > > > > > > > larry flesner <fles...@midwest.net> > > Envoyé par : krnet-boun...@mylist.net > 2005-02-07 15:13 > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 2005-02-07 15:15 > > > Pour : KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : Re: KR> Glide ratio > > > > At 12:18 PM 2/7/05 +0100, you wrote: > >Would anybody know what the KR2's glide ratio would be? > >Serge Vidal > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > My testing notes would indicate that my KR, 760 pounds empty, > stock KR wing with 8 inches total less span, at 70 -75 mph, > engine at idle, decending from 3500 feet to 3000 feet took about > 54 to 56 seconds. That comes out to about 550 fpm . At 70 mph > in smooth air with the engine at idle it feels like you're floating !! > > I was impressed for a 20 foot wing. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 25 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:06:49 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) > From: "gleone" <gle...@rtconnect.net> > Subject: Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Glide ratio > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <42078409.000001.01700@YOUR-FD6NVJCER4> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > How heavy is your plane? > > "Michael Moore is living proof to never trust anyone who is bigger around > than tall!" > -------Original Message------- > > From: Serge VIDAL > Date: 02/07/05 07:55:30 > To: KRnet > Subject: Réf. : Re: KR> Glide ratio > > Well, each time I played that game with my KR2, I got more the impression > to fall like a brick! Maybe the high density altitude changed the picture > somehow. I should have measured. > > Anyway, from your figures, that would give us a glide ratio of about 1. > Not bad indeed. > > Serge Vidal > > > > > > > larry flesner <fles...@midwest.net> > > Envoyé par : krnet-boun...@mylist.net > 2005-02-07 15:13 > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 2005-02-07 15:15 > > > Pour : KRnet <kr...@mylist.net> > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : Re: KR> Glide ratio > > > > At 12:18 PM 2/7/05 +0100, you wrote: > >Would anybody know what the KR2's glide ratio would be? > >Serge Vidal > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > My testing notes would indicate that my KR, 760 pounds empty, > stock KR wing with 8 inches total less span, at 70 -75 mph, > engine at idle, decending from 3500 feet to 3000 feet took about > 54 to 56 seconds. That comes out to about 550 fpm . At 70 mph > in smooth air with the engine at idle it feels like you're floating !! > > I was impressed for a 20 foot wing. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 26 > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:37:58 -0500 > From: "Kenneth B. Jones" <kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com> > Subject: Re: Réf. : Re: KR> Glide ratio > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Message-ID: <026201c50d2b$025cacf0$8d7ba8c0@oemcomputer> > > Yes, about 15:1 and Larry's works out to about 11.5:1. My plane is lighter > with longer wings. Makes sense to me. > > Ken > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Serge VIDAL" <serge.vi...@sagem.com> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 9:58 AM > Subject: Réf. : Re: KR> Glide ratio > > > ... and this would give us a glide ratio of 15? > > Serge Vidal > > > > > > "Kenneth B. Jones" <kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com> > > Envoyé par : krnet-boun...@mylist.net > 2005-02-07 15:15 > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 2005-02-07 15:17 > > > Pour : "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : Re: KR> Glide ratio > > > > My best distance is about 2.5 NM/1000 ft at 60 kts, but my stall speed is > about 50 kts and I'm not sure could flare at 60 kts. with no power. > That's also my best endurance, about 2.5 minutes per 1000 ft. Data was > taken at about 3000 ft on close to a standard day with a weight of 880 > lbs. > My plane is a KR-2 with a 3 blade (tapered) Warp Drive prop, pretty much > standard but does have the Diehl wings, tricycle gear without gear fairing > > or pants. > > Your results will surely vary. > > Ken Jones, kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com > Sharonville, OH > N5834, aka The Porkopolis Flying Pig > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Serge VIDAL" <serge.vi...@sagem.com> > To: <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 6:18 AM > Subject: KR> Glide ratio > > > > Would anybody know what the KR2's glide ratio would be? > > > > Serge Vidal > > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > > Paris, France > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 55 > **************************************
