and dont forget vortex gennies to lower stall speed too someone must have done it p ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cris." <flyi...@gmail.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:09 AM Subject: Re: Réf. : Re: KR> Hi from a new comer / prospective builder in Europe
Hi, Tony! I think that the Rotax 912 option will become more popular with the spreading of KR2S in Europe. The race for replacing older 80HP with a 100HP will hopefully make some 80HP engines available on the market at affordable prices. I have an 80HP 912 on my Storm and I am pretty satisfied with it for a number of reasons and I'm not considering buying a 100, but a lot of friends think differently, so I hope I'll be able to buy an 80 when It will be the time to work forward the firewall. Besides, I hope more people start a KR in Europe, as the problems here are different. Engine mounts, wood availability, certification issues and so on. I know of a KR2S with flaperons, operating in a 200 ft long runway near Rome (I'm currently trying to get in touch with the owner). This could be due to the need of lowering the stall speed. Ciao! Cristiano. Roma (ITALY) 2005/9/9, Serge VIDAL <serge.vi...@sagem.com>: > > Welcome, Tony. > > I own a KR2 which is complete and used to fly; I live in Paris, and you > are welcome to contact me off net. > > With a KR, you can build as you go, since the raw materials you need to > start your project are fairly cheap (wood and foam). > > As far as engines are concerned, Barry made a pretty good summary. I would > like to add that: > > - A KR will fly nicely with as little power as 60 hp. > > - You can either buy a certified engine (unnecessary luxury in my > opinion), or buy a non certified "professional" engine (a non certified > Rotax, for instance) or buy an automotive conversion, or make your own > automotive conversion. > > (Barry, as far as VW engines are concerned, you don't have to check the > tappets if your VW is a Type 4. Actually, the Type 4 is very different > from all the previous VW versions; it does not crack easily, has hydraulic > lifters, etc., and is definitely a good option; although I doubt you can > get one easily in Europe.) > > - If you don't want to start an engine project, and want to buy a ready > made engine, go Jabiru. Cheaper and not worse than the Rotax. > > In general, with a KR2, everything comes down to effort versus money. > > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > > > > > > "Barry Kruyssen" <k...@bigpond.com> > > Envoyé par : krnet-bounces+serge.vidal=sagem....@mylist.net > 2005-09-09 00:48 > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 2005-09-09 00:50 > > > Pour : "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : Re: KR> Hi from a new comer / prospective builder in Europe > > > > Welcome Tony, > > In my opinion the KR2S is a great choice. > > Engines (the controversial subject) > a.. Certified engines like the O-200, etc are too expensive and a bit > fuel hungry > b.. Corvair engines are an auto engine and unless you are in the US may > be a bit hard to get parts for. Also as I understand it, the crank shaft > lateral thrust bearing is on the center journal which could cause problems > for the cracking of cranks (someone please correct me if I'm wrong where > the thrust bearing is). > c.. VW conversions, yes another auto engine but they have been in > aircraft for ever. The problem here is that they are heavy for the horse > power they deliver. People try squeeze more HP out of them and then they > become unreliable. You have to check the tappets regularly. > d.. Jabiru engines are light, designed for aircraft, reliable and fuel > efficient, but you have to check the tappets regularly and can only use a > timber prop. > e.. Rotax 4 stroke engines (don't know much about the Rotax 2 stroke > engines) are light, designed for aircraft, reliable and fuel efficient. > They have water cooled heads, hydraulic tappets, you can use an in-flight > adjustable prop (if you want). Very user friendly in that you don't have > do much on them, except turn the key and fly, but a bit expensive. > > Best Horse Power for weight against MY dollars is the Jabiru. > > The above are only my opinions and will no doubt cause some heated > discussion :-) > This was the process led me to deciding on a Jabiru. > > regards > Barry Kruyssen > Cairns, Australia > RAA 19-3873 > > k...@bigpond.com > http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Antoine F8CKH > To: kr...@mylist.net > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 6:44 AM > Subject: KR> Hi from a new comer / prospective builder in Europe > > > Dear all, > > My name's Tony, I'm a 24 year old Flight / Attendant for a british > airline. I've been flying since 3 years now (I've got my PPL in France) > and I would like to move on to something else: build my own aircraft and > enjoy flying that way. > > As my dad had begun a Cozy several years ago, I was already pretty much > aware about what is an experimental aircraft but now it's time to go for > my own project. > > I'm ready to spend hours in my workshop and now here are some questions > about a KR2S project: > > - I didn't have a look yet at the plans themselves but I'd like to know > how is the building process divided into parts. Whilst I'm looking at the > different groups (1, 2, ...) of raw materials, I guess everything has to > be built from "'scratch"? (apart from those molded parts) > > - What would you think of mounting a Rotax 912 (100 HP) on the aircraft? > Apparently, the Rotax has a gross weight lesser than a Continental O - > 200. > > Anyway, > > This was just a quick introduction and I hope to hear from you soon, > guys! > > Regards, > > Tony > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > -- Land the airplane, rubber side down, main wheels first. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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