Hi Bobby Yep. Each to his own. You can either approach as a crab in balance (ball centred) and kick straight like Larry describes and I prefer..... or you can slip all the way down with a wing low, nose aligned and out of balance (ball to one side). Either way will work and is acceptable. Pilots have argued this one for decades. My point was simply that if you do the latter then angle of attack must be decreased to avoid the stall and thus nose down means airspeed goes up. Stall speed is always increased when an aircraft is flown out of balance.
Regards John. ----- Original Message ----- From: <bo...@hatconversions.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 7:23 AM Subject: Re: KR> slipping > John, > I disagree.......Approaches in a crosswind should be with a wing low > and the airplane lined up with the centerline. That is why so many > people have trouble flying a tailwheel. They are used to crabing it > in, crashing it sideways on the runway, and letting the tricycle gear > straighten them up. Bobby > > > > > > > > >> Hi Bill >> >> Actually airspeed must be increased in a sideslip because stall speed is >> raised also. This is because the wing becomes less efficient and the lift >> drag ratio is reduced. This means a greater angle of attack (nearer to >> the >> stall) at a given airspeed to maintain lift or alternatively you must >> increase air speed. If side slipping an approach you should always be >> applying some forward stick at the same time hence the steeper descent >> angle. Flaps were invented to overcome this as you say, to give a steeper >> approach angle and reduced airspeed. Side slip without forward stick has >> killed many a Tiger Moth pilot since it can put you into an opposite spin >> with no altitude in which to recover. Aerobatic pilots actually use this >> to >> advantage ti initiate spins at safe altitudes. >> >> Also an approach in a cross wind is a crabbed approach not necessarily a >> side slip. The aircaft should still be balanced relative to the wind >> (ball >> central) but its approach relative to the ground is skewed. In a side >> slip >> the ball is one way or the other depending on your rudder input and this >> can >> be achieved without cross wind if desired. >> >> Cheers John. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <w-z...@sbcglobal.net> >> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:48 PM >> Subject: Re: KR> slipping >> >> >>> By slipping one must qualify the type. By definition you will be cross >>> controlled in a forward slip, no way around that one. A side slip >>> however >>> would be used during a crosswind landing (kind of hard not to if you >>> actually want to land on the runway). As far as slips being "dangerous" >>> I >>> think that it was a required skill for all of us in order to get the >>> private. Remember those no flap landings. Guess what, a forward slip >>> isn't >>> dangerous and it provides the same advantage as flaps, steeper approach >>> angle without the increased airspeed. Flaps weren't always around >>> folks. >>> They were added to planes like that little wheel up front on your trike >>> gear >>> plane to make landings easier. That is also why actually having >>> tailwheel >>> time is essential. Trust me if you go from the 172 world straight into >>> your >>> tailwheel KR you will quickly learn what the term "ground loop" means >>> and >>> it >>> ain't an aerobatic maneuver. >>> >>> Bill Zink >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <feg...@sbcglobal.net> >>> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 1:21 AM >>> Subject: KR> slipping >>> >>> >>>> Slipping is natural when conditions require slipping. >>>> However, there sometimes is a tendancy to cross control >>>> which can be dangerous. >>>> Not many pilots understand the tendancy to cross >>>> control or even what it means. >>>> Is there a CFI out there who would be generous enough >>>> to elaborate on this? >>>> JR >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >>>> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net >>>> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >>> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net >>> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
