Actually, lift only comes into play when the ball is spinning. The reason a
golf ball flies farther with dimples is because a golf ball is not
aerodynamic. The air traveling around a smooth golf ball is traveling very
fast close to the surface of the ball and the air will separate abruptly
past the vertical center of the ball creating a large air void at the rear
of the ball of drag slowing the ball down. The dimples are added to create
turbulence near the surface of the ball allowing the air to decelerate
around the ball so the air can follow the contour of the ball longer,
reducing the cone of drag behind it. 

A smooth surface will be faster than a rough surface if the air is able to
follow the contour of the surface. Once the air cannot follow the surface, a
result of speed and shape, then creating a turbulent surface will be
beneficial. You get more surface drag from a rough surface but you can
reduce the pressure drag trailing the object that is much greater drag.

A rough suface creates turbulence and decelerates air around the boundary
layer delaying it's separation from the object, reducing it's trailing drag.

Jim 



-----Original Message-----
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Mark Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:09 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Armoural

The dimples on a golf ball are there for the purpose of lift which keeps the
ball in the air longer. At least this is what I have always read. A golf
ball with no dimples simply will not travel nearly as far as a dimples one
because it has no lift. Haven't you guys seen the dimpled leading edge tape
you can get for wings and props? It gives the wings more lift at slow speeds
which keeps the air from breaking off the wing pre stall. On the prop, it
gives it more bite. At least that is what I read.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my NEW
KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "D F Lively" <riksh...@interl.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Armoural


> KRnetters:
>
> This sounds analogous to the reason golf balls are "Dimpled".
>
> Don Lively
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Hennie van Rooyen [HQP]" wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just my 2 cents on this subject. There's a lot of info on the net on
this so I'll not even try to elaborate.
> >
> > Air over air causes a lot less friction than air over metal, fiber glass
or whatever. Therefore a very slight rough surface on i.e. a wing (pinholes)
will produce less friction than a very smooth wing surface and therefore
also higher top speed.
> >
> > You actually want dull surfaces for more speed as bright smooth surfaces
are purely for appeal and not for speed. The air clings to the surface and
this is the exact opposite of what you want.
> >
> > I'm convinced that if you take sandpaper and apply to your KR giving it
a dull, non shiny surface (not nice to look at), you'll get the speed
increase you're after.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Hennie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> > Behalf Of Frank Ross
> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:13 AM
> > To: KRnet
> > Subject: RE: KR> Armoural
> >
> > I know there aren't many things funnier than putting a good coat of
Armor All on the seat of a dirt-bike right before a steep hill-climb  and
watching the rider try to stay on the seat...
> >
> >
> > Brian Kraut <brian.kr...@engalt.com> wrote:  Did you scrape an inch of
bugs off the leading edge before you put that
> > Armor All on?
> >
> > I do know that fiberglass gliders fly considerably better when they are
> > clean and waxed, but they have a whole lot more wetted area than a KR
and
> > competition gliders likely have much more critical airfoils than the KR
> > does.
> >
> > Brian Kraut
> > Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> > www.engalt.com
> >
> >
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