Colin:

When I had my engine failure in a Cardinal in '71 I was told that over-heating 
results from flying it to lean and that became an issure because about 15 min 
before my problem developed I let down from 10,500 to 8,500 on a trip from 
Prescott AZ(PRC) to Santa Ana CA(SNA) at the Colorado River.  I leaned for max 
power during a full power run-up at PRC, elev 5500 ft +/- and then enricht to a 
50 rpm drop and know that I re-set the mixture after let down.  It was a rented 
plane and I was accused of running it to lean.  The trouble was that a factory 
inspection revealed all valves were servicable.  I never rented from them again 
because I found out that they had 5  major mech. failures in 3months prior to 
my experience.  Maybe coincidence but to me it was a possible indicator of poor 
maint.

And it would take a big move of the mixture to kill the engine quickly and if 
that would happen most would surely recognize what they had done immediately

Don

beverlyrai...@bellsouth.net wrote:

> Jim
> I have never heard of an engine quitting due to detonation by itself. If the 
> engine quits is is usually due to the engine damage done by the detonation, 
> not the detonation itself, if that makes sense.  Most often the damage is to 
> the crown of the psiton, since detonation is usually accompanied by a rocking 
> of the piston back and forth on the wrist pin, causing a "slapping" of the 
> piston into the cylinder walls.  This is where the damage occurs, usually 
> breaking some portion of the crown of the piston off and either sending the 
> piece out the exhaust, which sometimes also damages the exhaust valve, or 
> sending it into the oil pan.  A quick compression check can easily discover a 
> damaged cylinder.  This damage can also happen and the engine still operate, 
> possibly with decent power as Mark Jones found when he crushed the ring lands 
> on one of his pistons.  It is possible for your mixture to be too rich for 
> the temp you were seeing, since you were on the upper end of the temp rang!
>  e, and at full rich would probably smother a standard set of plugs, which 
> with that heat would dry themselves.
>
> In engine diagnostics, we always went back to basics whenever we were trying 
> to determine and engine failure: 1) check fuel supply; 2) check ignition 
> capability - good spark; 3) check compression. Those are your three basics. 
> Without them in the right order, all else you check is worthless.  Once you 
> determine these are right and in the correct order, then the ghost hunt can 
> begin.  Worked for me for over 15 years....
>
> Colin
> N96TA
>
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