Hi,

I forgot the piper 180 that took 2 hours to climb to 8k feet in the 
downhill (read downwind) side of a mountain range.

I have never gotten anything naturally aspirated to 10k.  Perhaps
I did not have the time to wait (or the distance)..

jg 

Gotta get high fast..








On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 21:42 -0500, D Lively wrote:
> John:
> 
> I would say that your proposed use of a turbo charger is its best use but 
> personally have flown C-172s to 13,000 & C-182s  to over 15000'  for short 
> periods but view 12,500 ft about the limit for sustained operation by a 
> non-smoking pilot or passenger without Oxygen.  I believe the craft you site 
> all have service cielings in the 14000 area anyway.  Beware of over-boosting 
> as it can be  hard on engines and shorten their life.
> 
> Having been in and out of Prescott AZ several times as well as high density 
> altitude conditions in the Calif. Central Valley and those of the CA deserts 
> I can understand your position very well.
> 
> Don Lively
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John" <johng...@comcast.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:11 PM
> Subject: KR> Turbo to maintain Sealevel intake manifold pressure
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > I just made a deposit on  a new long block 2180 for
> > my KR2.
> > 
> > I am in the Seattle area and virtualy surrounded by mountains.
> > 
> > I have only 150 hours PIC, but in a pretty wide variety of
> > craft (C-150, Musketeer, C-172, Champ, C-120,
> > C-150 Long range, beech 1900 etc...  All of them seem (except the 1900)
> > to run out of "guts" at about 9K feet.  I can't remember ever making 10k
> > feet, they all were naturally aspirated.  Going over a 4k to 6k mountain
> > range just to leave town leaves me wanting to clear those "Don't land
> > here" speed bumps by oh, say, 5k or 6k ft.  Can't get there from
> > "naturally aspirated" here.  
> > 
> > I am not a speed or performance demon. I fly like I drive:
> > sort of slow and methodical.  But I want to clear those rocks
> > (and the bigger ones east of there) by a wider margin.
> > 
> > So,, I want a turbo charger.  I can find one, but I have not been able
> > to find a controller for the waste gate that will limit the intake
> > manifold pressure to 29.92 inches of mercury.  Or I suppose 
> > open the waste gate at 3700 rpm.
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > jg
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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