DAN INA GLANDT wrote:

>>  He understands that to burn premium unleaded auto fuel and get good hp, 
>> a compression ratio of  9.5 : 1  works well at sea level.  Most of his 
>> flying here will be in the 6000' msl range and up.  Because the air is 
>> thinner up here, he believes that a smaller combustion chamber size would 
>> work and that with a pre ignition detector installed, he can determine 
>> when he would need to burn higher octane fuel if going to a lower 
>> elevation.  The question is how much smaller would be the combustion 
>> chamber be to equal 9.5 to 1 at sea level.  He is thinking around 51 cc, 
>> but we don't know for sure how to verify this.  We realize it is 
>> complicated by a number of factors. >>

Joe Horton pointed out that I completely missed the point of this question. 
Other than the comments I made the other day about chamber volume being just 
one of the variables in compression ratio, I'd also mention that I don't 
think 9.5:1 is an acceptable compression ratio when burning auto fuel, even 
the 93 octane that I use.  I've run 9.35:1 CR  for the last 950 hours, and 
it's right on the ragged edge of what's acceptable.  In fact, it leaves 
almost no margin for mistakes.  I do experience detonation (which is not the 
same as "preignition") on occasion after a heat-soaking fuel stop in the 
heat of summer, or after idling for a long time in "traffic", such as 
waiting in line for takeoff at SNF or OSH. A summertime takeoff with carb 
heat on will yield detonation half way down the runway, which is not a good 
time for it.   I have the instrumentation and experience to know when the 
engine is detonating, and have learned how to calm it down after a minute or 
so, but you're average guy wouldn't notice, and would be down in the trees 
in a minute or two.   I'm talking about where I live, which is at 800'.

Of course you could probably guesstimate how much higher the CR could be by 
using some kind of  inverse of the "percent power" reduction of a 6000' 
baseline, but I think that's a really bad idea.  The day will come when 
he'll fly somewhere lower, and the odds will be stacked against him.  Of 
course you could say you'll just 100LL, but I used that kind of logic and 
almost ended up in the trees on several occasions.

Contrary to what some folks think, compression ratio isn't a linear 
"free-power" lunch, and it's just not worth trying to eek out the last 
remaining drops of power at the expense of reliability and safety.  I'll 
build my next engine with a max of 9:1 compression ratio, and that's with 
optimal quench volume.  Sub-optimal quench volumes require an even lower 
compression ratio, in my opinion.  There's more on quench at 
http://www.n56ml.com/corvair/95hp/ .

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website www.n56ml.com

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