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1. Aileron cable rigging... (Oscar Zuniga)<br>
2. Re: Kr-2s Lsa? (Jim Kendrick)<br>
3. Re: Aileron cable rigging... (Larry&Sallie Flesner)<br>
4. Pics of my kr2-s "The Mistress" (warrong2)<br>
5. Re: Kr-2s Lsa? (Nerobro)<br>
6. Re: Kr-2s Lsa? (jon kimmel)<br>
7. Re: Kr-2s Lsa? (Jeff Scott)<br>
8. Upsize? (Bob White)<br>
9. Re: Upsize? (Lynn)<br>
10. Re: Upsize? (Virgil N. Salisbury)<br>
11. RE: Upsize? (Dene Collett)<br>
12. Removing paint from fibreglass u/c legs ... (Martin Pearce)<br>
13. Re: Removing paint from fibreglass u/c legs ... (Dave
Acklam)<br>
14. Re: Upsize? (Dave_A)<br>
15. Re: Kr-2s Lsa? (Dave_A)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 21:58:28 -0700<br>
From: Oscar Zuniga <taildr...@hotmail.com><br>
Subject: KR> Aileron cable rigging...<br>
To: <kr...@mylist.net><br>
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<br>
Disclaimer: my Air Camper is wood frame with fabric covering and cruise speed
is 70MPH. That said, I can second what Mark L. wrote about rigging the
ailerons with the trailing edge just a smidge low on both sides. My
control cables aren't twangy tight but even if they were, the rigging trick
would be worthwhile. The trailing edges of my ailerons ride about 3/16"
low on the ground but quickly come up flush with the TE of the wing in cruise
flight. Looks funny on the ground and your DAR or Tech Counselor will
probably question it upon inspection, but once you get in the air and in level
cruise, look out both sides and the TE of the ailerons will be nice and tight
with the TE of the wings.<br>
<br>
What Mark said.<br>
<br>
Oscar Zuniga<br>
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"<br>
Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"<br>
Medford, OR<br>
<br>
website at <a
href="http://www.flysquirrel.net";>http://www.flysquirrel.net</a><br>
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Message: 2<br>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 06:45:41 -0400<br>
From: Jim Kendrick <jim.kendrick1...@gmail.com><br>
Subject: Re: KR> Kr-2s Lsa?<br>
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net><br>
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Tom,<br>
<br>
You pose some interesting points and would like to hear some others to see<br>
if there is an interest for us old coots too .... But maybe its time for a<br>
KR3 ?<br>
<br>
Jim Kendrick<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Tom <thomas.garne...@comcast.net> wrote:<br>
<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Jim Kendrick asked about a super Kr2 becoming an LSA? I have asked
> the<br>
> same question Jim. Having been retired for more than a decade from a
> 45<br>
> year wonderful career in Architecture, I certainly am not qualified to<br>
> design the main wing spar for a longer span for the outer wing panel for<br>
> the Kr. At one time, Rand designed outer wing panels for the Kr-1 to
> make<br>
> it into a glider, but I never saw or understood what kind of loads it
> would<br>
> carry. In looking at some of the newest LSA designs for sale in
> Sport<br>
> aviation, they have wing spans of around thirty feet for the thirteen<br>
> hundred gross weight. I have not seen what airfoils these designs use,
> but<br>
> there are several in EAA books that would certainly could be used to Slow<br>
> it down, Match the required stall at gross, etc. We old coots that
> could<br>
> fly LSA, might be able to get back into the air? I said it before, some
> of<br>
> you young engineer types come up with wing designs and plans, we will buy<br>
> them. These airplanes all have hershy bar wings.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> on a different thought about Kr-2 pitch sensitive control, there is
> an<br>
> article in January 1988 Sport aviation, that is worth reading before the<br>
> first flight of a new Kr-2. EAA Members can access past articles on
> the<br>
> internet, if you can remember all the pass words. Two things that
> stood<br>
> out for me as note worthy are, tail wheel training is necessary, and the<br>
> top of control stick only moves at a one half inch radius circle!<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Tom Garner in Nashville<br>
><br>
> EAA 90944<br>
> _______________________________________<br>
> Search the KRnet Archives at <a
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Message: 3<br>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 07:35:45 -0500<br>
From: Larry&Sallie Flesner <fles...@frontier.com><br>
Subject: Re: KR> Aileron cable rigging...<br>
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net><br>
Message-ID: <2c771f$8fq...@out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed<br>
<br>
At 11:58 PM 5/28/2012, you wrote:<br>
<br>
>Disclaimer: my Air Camper is wood frame with fabric covering and <br>
>cruise speed is 70MPH. That said, I can second what Mark L. wrote <br>
>about rigging the ailerons with the trailing edge just a smidge low <br>
>on both sides.<br>
>Oscar Zuniga<br>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br>
<br>
Mine are rigged flush and stay flush in flight. Wonder what the deal
is?<br>
<br>
Tip: When you cut the aileron out of the finished wing and install <br>
the aileron spar, don't forget to put the twist in the aileron to <br>
match the wing. Duhaaaa...........<br>
<br>
Larry Flesner<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 4<br>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 05:37:54 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: warrong2 <warro...@bellsouth.net><br>
Subject: KR> Pics of my kr2-s "The Mistress"<br>
To: kr...@mylist.net<br>
Message-ID:<br>
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I JUST ADDED some pics of my Kr2-s That I started in 94' first with the plans
<br>
then after contemplating for almost one year, "One the hell did I do?" I
started <br>
to build it slowly' Most of the pics are recent about 2 years worth but you get
<br>
the idea of what can be accomplished over time, lots and lots and lots of time.
<br>
Notice tyhe fairings on the empenage and wing leading edge also the dune buggy
<br>
gloass seats I modified. Some of the pics are when I just looked at it and <br>
contemplated my next moves.<br>
<br>
<a
href="http://s1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/warronflys/";>http://s1143.photobucket.com/albums/n622/warronflys/</a><br>
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Message: 5<br>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 08:36:54 -0500<br>
From: Nerobro <nero...@gmail.com><br>
Subject: Re: KR> Kr-2s Lsa?<br>
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net><br>
Message-ID:<br>
<CABLCE0iGd7m19y06LL=rhqrk-h0ma-xb4uhxxexr2akdepd...@mail.gmail.com><br>
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<br>
The KR3 already happened. And it didn't end well. :-) going
to LSA specs<br>
would be an interesting exercise. I wonder what a LSA wing would look<br>
like. People would need to be a lot more careful about airframe
weight.<br>
On May 29, 2012 5:45 AM, "Jim Kendrick" <jim.kendrick1...@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Tom,<br>
><br>
> You pose some interesting points and would like to hear some others to see<br>
> if there is an interest for us old coots too .... But maybe its time for a<br>
> KR3 ?<br>
><br>
> Jim Kendrick<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Tom <thomas.garne...@comcast.net> wrote:<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Jim Kendrick asked about a super Kr2 becoming an LSA? I have asked
> > the<br>
> > same question Jim. Having been retired for more than a decade from a
> > 45<br>
> > year wonderful career in Architecture, I certainly am not qualified to<br>
> > design the main wing spar for a longer span for the outer wing panel for<br>
> > the Kr. At one time, Rand designed outer wing panels for the Kr-1
> > to<br>
> make<br>
> > it into a glider, but I never saw or understood what kind of loads it<br>
> would<br>
> > carry. In looking at some of the newest LSA designs for sale in
> > Sport<br>
> > aviation, they have wing spans of around thirty feet for the thirteen<br>
> > hundred gross weight. I have not seen what airfoils these designs
> > use,<br>
> but<br>
> > there are several in EAA books that would certainly could be used to
> > Slow<br>
> > it down, Match the required stall at gross, etc. We old coots that
> > could<br>
> > fly LSA, might be able to get back into the air? I said it before,
> > some<br>
> of<br>
> > you young engineer types come up with wing designs and plans, we will
> > buy<br>
> > them. These airplanes all have hershy bar wings.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > on a different thought about Kr-2 pitch sensitive control, there is
> > an<br>
> > article in January 1988 Sport aviation, that is worth reading before the<br>
> > first flight of a new Kr-2. EAA Members can access past articles on
> > the<br>
> > internet, if you can remember all the pass words. Two things that
> > stood<br>
> > out for me as note worthy are, tail wheel training is necessary, and the<br>
> > top of control stick only moves at a one half inch radius circle!<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Tom Garner in Nashville<br>
> ><br>
> > EAA 90944<br>
> > _______________________________________<br>
> > Search the KRnet Archives at <a
> > href="http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search";>http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search</a>.<br>
> > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net<br>
> > please see other KRnet info at <a
> > href="http://www.krnet.org/info.html";>http://www.krnet.org/info.html</a><br>
> ><br>
> _______________________________________<br>
> Search the KRnet Archives at <a
> href="http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search";>http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search</a>.<br>
> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net<br>
> please see other KRnet info at <a
> href="http://www.krnet.org/info.html";>http://www.krnet.org/info.html</a><br>
><br>
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Message: 6<br>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 13:54:24 -0500<br>
From: jon kimmel <jkimme...@gmail.com><br>
Subject: Re: KR> Kr-2s Lsa?<br>
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net><br>
Message-ID:<br>
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<br>
My wing is going to have a higher aspect ratio than most...with a 25 foot<br>
span. The spar chords have been beefed up significantly so it will be<br>
heavier...I didn't design it but I checked it and the logic is sound.
It<br>
could handle the standard kr2 extensions to make it longer than 25 feet,<br>
but then I would be concerned about where the WAFs mount to the wing.
I<br>
think the toughest part of an lsa would be getting the weight down.
Also,<br>
when I talked to the faa guy he said that a lsa has to be 100% built per<br>
plans at signoff...it seems like the KR community might have a tough time<br>
conforming to that standard.<br>
On May 29, 2012 8:37 AM, "Nerobro" <nero...@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
<br>
> The KR3 already happened. And it didn't end well. :-) going
> to LSA specs<br>
> would be an interesting exercise. I wonder what a LSA wing would
> look<br>
> like. People would need to be a lot more careful about airframe
> weight.<br>
> On May 29, 2012 5:45 AM, "Jim Kendrick" <jim.kendrick1...@gmail.com><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Tom,<br>
> ><br>
> > You pose some interesting points and would like to hear some others to<br>
> see<br>
> > if there is an interest for us old coots too .... But maybe its time for<br>
> a<br>
> > KR3 ?<br>
> ><br>
> > Jim Kendrick<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Tom <thomas.garne...@comcast.net><br>
> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Jim Kendrick asked about a super Kr2 becoming an LSA? I have asked
> > > the<br>
> > > same question Jim. Having been retired for more than a decade from
> > > a<br>
> 45<br>
> > > year wonderful career in Architecture, I certainly am not qualified to<br>
> > > design the main wing spar for a longer span for the outer wing panel<br>
> for<br>
> > > the Kr. At one time, Rand designed outer wing panels for the Kr-1
> > > to<br>
> > make<br>
> > > it into a glider, but I never saw or understood what kind of loads it<br>
> > would<br>
> > > carry. In looking at some of the newest LSA designs for sale in
> > > Sport<br>
> > > aviation, they have wing spans of around thirty feet for the thirteen<br>
> > > hundred gross weight. I have not seen what airfoils these designs
> > > use,<br>
> > but<br>
> > > there are several in EAA books that would certainly could be used to<br>
> Slow<br>
> > > it down, Match the required stall at gross, etc. We old coots
> > > that<br>
> could<br>
> > > fly LSA, might be able to get back into the air? I said it
> > > before,<br>
> some<br>
> > of<br>
> > > you young engineer types come up with wing designs and plans, we will<br>
> buy<br>
> > > them. These airplanes all have hershy bar wings.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > on a different thought about Kr-2 pitch sensitive control, there is
> > > an<br>
> > > article in January 1988 Sport aviation, that is worth reading before<br>
> the<br>
> > > first flight of a new Kr-2. EAA Members can access past articles
> > > on<br>
> the<br>
> > > internet, if you can remember all the pass words. Two things
> > > that<br>
> stood<br>
> > > out for me as note worthy are, tail wheel training is necessary, and<br>
> the<br>
> > > top of control stick only moves at a one half inch radius circle!<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Tom Garner in Nashville<br>
> > ><br>
> > > EAA 90944<br>
> > > _______________________________________<br>
> > > Search the KRnet Archives at <a
> > > href="http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search";>http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search</a>.<br>
> > > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net<br>
> > > please see other KRnet info at <a
> > > href="http://www.krnet.org/info.html";>http://www.krnet.org/info.html</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > _______________________________________<br>
> > Search the KRnet Archives at <a
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> ><br>
> _______________________________________<br>
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><br>
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Message: 7<br>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 15:20:57 -0400<br>
From: "Jeff Scott" <jscott.pla...@gmx.com><br>
Subject: Re: KR> Kr-2s Lsa?<br>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net><br>
Message-ID: <20120529192057.50...@gmx.com><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>
<br>
There appears to be some confusion about the differences between an E-LSA
(Experimental - Light Sport Aircraft) vs an E-AB (Experimental - Amateur Built)
Aircraft meeting LSA standards and flown as an LSA.<br>
<br>
As quoted in the post below, for an aircraft to be licensed as an E-LSA,
it must be an approved E-LSA design and must be built exactly acording to
plans. End of story.<br>
<br>
However, one can build an E-AB and license it as an E-AB, then fly it
under the LSA rules provided the aircraft meets the LSA standards and flies
within the prescribed LSA flight envelope. One could modify a KR to meet those
standards. But the best thing you could do to help yourself with that is not
use the KR name. Call it an original design since it will be redesigned anyway.
<br>
<br>
Weight for a KR like aircraft shouldn't be an issue as it is only
designed as a 980# gross aircraft. I know of several that are licensed to 1200#
gross and I'm sure there are a couple that are heavier than that, but Light
Sport allows up to 1320# gross. The biggest issue will be to get the stall
speed down to the LSA max stall speed of 51 mph CAS and max cruise (easily
limited by limiting rpms) of 138 mph CAS. This shouldn't be too difficult to
attain as my KR with RAF 48 Diehl Wings has a stall of 52 mph with flaps and 55
mph clean. But you will be likely to have fewer issues with the FAA and
insurance if you call the aircraft an original design and drop the KR name.
We'll still let you show up at the Gatherings. ;o)<br>
<br>
If the aircraft is licensed as an E-AB and flown under Light Sport rules,
the FAA really doesn't get involved beyond issuing the E-AB airworthiness and
after the fact if something bad happens. Where bad things might happen using
the KR name would be when you attempt to insure the plane. The insurance
underwriters have a list of E-AB planes they know can be flown under Light
Sport rules. KRs are not on that list. So calling your new Light Sport legal
plane a KR has the potential to leave you with a plane that you can't insure if
you choose to fly under Light Sport rules. Yes, your insurance will want to
know what set of rules you are flying under.<br>
<br>
Jeff Scott<br>
Los Alamos, NM<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: jon kimmel<br>
Sent: 05/29/12 12:54 PM<br>
To: KRnet<br>
Subject: Re: KR> Kr-2s Lsa?<br>
<br>
My wing is going to have a higher aspect ratio than most...with a 25 foot
span. The spar chords have been beefed up significantly so it will be
heavier...I didn't design it but I checked it and the logic is sound. It could
handle the standard kr2 extensions to make it longer than 25 feet, but then I
would be concerned about where the WAFs mount to the wing. I think the toughest
part of an lsa would be getting the weight down. Also, when I talked to the faa
guy he said that a lsa has to be 100% built per plans at signoff...it seems
like the KR community might have a tough time conforming to that standard.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 8<br>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:57:06 -0500<br>
From: Bob White <robertwh...@usa.com><br>
Subject: KR> Upsize?<br>
To: "kr...@mylist.net" <kr...@mylist.net><br>
Message-ID: <920f43e8-7176-4197-afa4-56f77b93a...@usa.com><br>
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=us-ascii<br>
<br>
I Haven't even finished my kr2 just yet but expect to have it flying within the
next 2 months, though I often catch myself day dreaming about building a 4
place aircraft. Anyone ever look into upsizing the kr2 design to have 4
seats? I know it would be quite a redesign and would probably be better
off going with a design that was originally intended for 4 seats. <br>
<br>
Bob white<br>
<br>
robertwh...@usa.com<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
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Message: 9<br>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:29:17 -0800<br>
From: "Lynn" <kl7...@aptalaska.net><br>
Subject: Re: KR> Upsize?<br>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net><br>
Message-ID: <135A35026C3C450DBADBD21A60C7E5FB@LynnPC><br>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";<br>
reply-type=original<br>
<br>
It's always best to follow the plans.<br>
<br>
Lynn Hyder N37LH<br>
<br>
-----Original Message----- <br>
From: Bob White<br>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:57 AM<br>
To: kr...@mylist.net<br>
Subject: KR> Upsize?<br>
<br>
I Haven't even finished my kr2 just yet but expect to have it flying within <br>
the next 2 months, though I often catch myself day dreaming about building a
<br>
4 place aircraft. Anyone ever look into upsizing the kr2 design to have 4
<br>
seats? I know it would be quite a redesign and would probably be better
off <br>
going with a design that was originally intended for 4 seats.<br>
<br>
Bob white<br>
<br>
robertwh...@usa.com<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 17:12:47 -0400<br>
From: "Virgil N. Salisbury" <virg...@bellsouth.net><br>
Subject: Re: KR> Upsize?<br>
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Try a Turner T-40 ??? Virg<br>
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On 5/29/2012 3:57 PM, Bob White
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> I Haven't even finished my kr2 just yet but expect to have it flying within
> the next 2 months, though I often catch myself day dreaming about building a
> 4 place aircraft. Anyone ever look into upsizing the kr2 design to have
> 4 seats? I know it would be quite a redesign and would probably be
> better off going with a design that was originally intended for 4 seats.<br>
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> Bob white<br>
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Message: 11<br>
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Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 23:27:05 +0200<br>
From: "Dene Collett" <av...@igen.co.za><br>
Subject: RE: KR> Upsize?<br>
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Bob iy has been done already (I think)<br>
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The aircraft I am thinking of is called a KR360<br>
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It might not have been a four seater though.<br>
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Regards<br>
Dene Collett<br>
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Message: 12<br>
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Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 07:55:18 +1000<br>
From: "Martin Pearce" <rocketdri...@optusnet.com.au><br>
Subject: KR> Removing paint from fibreglass u/c legs ...<br>
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Can anyone advise me as to the best method to remove old paint from<br>
fibreglass .... is paint stripper a good idea? I prefer not to sand the<br>
paint off ( some of it is flaking off anyway) in case of damaging the<br>
fibreglass underneath ..... and I am unsure as to the safety of paint<br>
stripper chemicals on the fibreglass ..<br>
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Cheers<br>
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Message: 13<br>
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Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 15:56:46 -0700<br>
From: Dave Acklam <dave.a.kr...@gmail.com><br>
Subject: Re: KR> Removing paint from fibreglass u/c legs ...<br>
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Paint stripper dissolves fiberglass composites (as I learned when I tried<br>
to get a botched rattlecan paintjob off a boat)....<br>
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An electric detail sander and some fine-grit sandpaper are the way to go....<br>
On May 29, 2012 2:55 PM, "Martin Pearce" <rocketdri...@optusnet.com.au><br>
wrote:<br>
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> Can anyone advise me as to the best method to remove old paint from<br>
> fibreglass .... is paint stripper a good idea? I prefer not to sand the<br>
> paint off ( some of it is flaking off anyway) in case of damaging
> the<br>
> fibreglass underneath ..... and I am unsure as to the safety of paint<br>
> stripper chemicals on the fibreglass ..<br>
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> Cheers<br>
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> Martin<br>
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> Martin Pearce<br>
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> KR2 19 - 7814<br>
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Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:47:23 -0700<br>
From: Dave_A <dave.a.kr...@gmail.com><br>
Subject: Re: KR> Upsize?<br>
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The T-40 isn't a 4-place, and it's very different construction than the <br>
KR (no foam, minimal composite work). However, I can kind of see the <br>
comparison between a T-40A and an 'Upsized KR2', when it comes to <br>
appearance (It's a much heavier bird too - O-320 vs VW & all)...<br>
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I've got a T-40AS that I need to finish, once the KR is flying...<br>
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That said, I'm working on finishing one of those too...<br>
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On 5/29/2012 2:12 PM, Virgil N. Salisbury wrote:<br>
> Try a Turner T-40 ??? Virg<br>
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> On 5/29/2012 3:57 PM, Bob White
>wrote:<br>
>> I Haven't even finished my kr2 just yet but expect to have it flying within
>> the next 2 months, though I often catch myself day dreaming about building a
>> 4 place aircraft. Anyone ever look into upsizing the kr2 design to
>> have 4 seats? I know it would be quite a redesign and would probably
>> be better off going with a design that was originally intended for 4
>> seats.<br>
>><br>
>> Bob white<br>
>><br>
>> robertwh...@usa.com<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
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Message: 15<br>
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Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:48:13 -0700<br>
From: Dave_A <dave.a.kr...@gmail.com><br>
Subject: Re: KR> Kr-2s Lsa?<br>
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KR3 was supposed to be a float plane, right?<br>
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On 5/29/2012 6:36 AM, Nerobro wrote:<br>
> The KR3 already happened. And it didn't end well. :-) going
> to LSA specs<br>
> would be an interesting exercise. I wonder what a LSA wing would
> look<br>
> like. People would need to be a lot more careful about airframe
> weight.<br>
> On May 29, 2012 5:45 AM, "Jim Kendrick"<jim.kendrick1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:<br>
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>> Tom,<br>
>><br>
>> You pose some interesting points and would like to hear some others to
>> see<br>
>> if there is an interest for us old coots too .... But maybe its time for
>> a<br>
>> KR3 ?<br>
>><br>
>> Jim Kendrick<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Tom<thomas.garne...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Jim Kendrick asked about a super Kr2 becoming an LSA? I have asked
>>> the<br>
>>> same question Jim. Having been retired for more than a decade from a
>>> 45<br>
>>> year wonderful career in Architecture, I certainly am not qualified to<br>
>>> design the main wing spar for a longer span for the outer wing panel for<br>
>>> the Kr. At one time, Rand designed outer wing panels for the Kr-1
>>> to<br>
>> make<br>
>>> it into a glider, but I never saw or understood what kind of loads it<br>
>> would<br>
>>> carry. In looking at some of the newest LSA designs for sale in
>>> Sport<br>
>>> aviation, they have wing spans of around thirty feet for the thirteen<br>
>>> hundred gross weight. I have not seen what airfoils these designs
>>> use,<br>
>> but<br>
>>> there are several in EAA books that would certainly could be used to
>>> Slow<br>
>>> it down, Match the required stall at gross, etc. We old coots that
>>> could<br>
>>> fly LSA, might be able to get back into the air? I said it before,
>>> some<br>
>> of<br>
>>> you young engineer types come up with wing designs and plans, we will
>>> buy<br>
>>> them. These airplanes all have hershy bar wings.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> on a different thought about Kr-2 pitch sensitive control, there is
>>> an<br>
>>> article in January 1988 Sport aviation, that is worth reading before the<br>
>>> first flight of a new Kr-2. EAA Members can access past articles on
>>> the<br>
>>> internet, if you can remember all the pass words. Two things that
>>> stood<br>
>>> out for me as note worthy are, tail wheel training is necessary, and the<br>
>>> top of control stick only moves at a one half inch radius circle!<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Tom Garner in Nashville<br>
>>><br>
>>> EAA 90944<br>
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