Gentlemen, My cursory search of the internet has revealed that the phrase attributed to Col Benjamin Hawkins (1754-1816) is 'God willing and the Creek don't rise' and even this may not be the original version of this saying. There is also dispute as to the meaning of the word 'Creek' and it is a modern error to presume that 'the creek don't rise' is a grammatical error. There are also those who can find no evidence in Hawkins preserved writings to credit him with the saying in any case. There is wide ranging discussion as to the origin of the saying, but all that aside, the meaning is well understood and most certainly both forms of the saying are as valid.
Noel Tesch. -----Original Message----- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Driscoll Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2012 1:11 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> GATHERING WEATHER AND OTHER IDEAS with God willing and the creeks don't rise. Mark, I hate to be one to correct another person, (not really, I have a ball doing it/), but the saying you used above is actually a response from a Senator, (don't recall his name), who was asked to come to Washington, (back in the 1700's) and sent a reply saying, "I'll be there if the good Lord's willing and the Creek don't rise". The reference to the Creek was to a tribe of Indians called the Creek, who were giving the settlers trouble at the time. Now you are almost as smart as I am. Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patric...@usfamily.net www.pensbypat.com If you can read this, Thank a teacher If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html