Thanks for the info guys. I’ll install a fuel pump. Victor
Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 29, 2019, at 12:00, krnet-requ...@list.krnet.org wrote: > > Send KRnet mailing list submissions to > krnet@list.krnet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > krnet-requ...@list.krnet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > krnet-ow...@list.krnet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for > http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (Mark Langford) > 2. Re: plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for > http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (Robert Sauer) > 3. Re: plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for > http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (Mark Langford) > 4. Re: plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for > http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (Mark Langford) > 5. Re: plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for > http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (Phillip Matheson) > 6. Fuel pump O-200 (victor taylor) > 7. Re: Fuel pump O-200 (Brant Hollensbe) > 8. Re: Fuel pump O-200 (Randall Smith) > 9. cross wind limit (jeb) > 10. Re: Fuel pump O-200 (Jeff Scott) > 11. Re: cross wind limit (Jeff Scott) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:45:28 -0500 > From: Mark Langford <m...@n56ml.com> > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for > http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html > Message-ID: <0edf3560-ae2a-5d5a-01a6-50bd93622...@n56ml.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > OK....I got input from several folks, and have incorporated it into the > http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.xls spreadsheet and > http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html "dumb version". Thanks for the > updates. It's not too late for others to do some testing and submit > their numbers. I'll give ya'll until maybe after the Gathering to come > up with some numbers and send them my way, before I update it again. > That way maybe Stef and Jones will have some numbers! > Meanwhile, the folks whose planes are listed are welcome to check the > site and let me know if there are updates needed, and maybe fill in some > of the question marks that are on the spreadsheet, as well as send links > to your websites if they are missing. I did delete all of the dead > website links, which was probably 10-12 of them, unfortunately. Their > KRs live on though, as the performance data is still quite useful. > > Thanks.... > > Mark Langford > m...@n56ml.com > http://www.n56ml.com > -------------------------------- >> On 4/23/2019 7:23 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote: >> As most of you know, and many of you have used and appreciate, there's a >> "KR-info" performance spreadsheet posted on KRnet at >> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html , where many of the flying KRs have >> their vital statistics displayed for the help of the community. This is >> useful for those planning to build a KR to help decide what they'd like >> to build, and what propeller to use for a certain aircraft and engine >> combination. For those already flying, it's a good way to see where >> your plane stacks up in the mix, and perhaps help you think about what >> you could do to increase efficiency. In recent weeks we've had >> conversations from several folks who've detailed how they gradually >> improved their planes to get higher speeds through more efficiency. >> This kind of info is helpful to us all. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >> ML "at" N56ML.com >> www.N56ML.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 10:27:06 -0700 > From: Robert Sauer <rob81...@gmail.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for > http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html > Message-ID: > <canuxmcsttefnc0pqc_czwjnkzfbemjtg-jzx6s8iuzahmfm...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Mark, I sent mine to John Boyea as he wrote to me that he would sent them > along with his to you...... Bob > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:46 AM Mark Langford via KRnet < > krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote: > >> OK....I got input from several folks, and have incorporated it into the >> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.xls spreadsheet and >> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html "dumb version". Thanks for the >> updates. It's not too late for others to do some testing and submit >> their numbers. I'll give ya'll until maybe after the Gathering to come >> up with some numbers and send them my way, before I update it again. >> That way maybe Stef and Jones will have some numbers! >> Meanwhile, the folks whose planes are listed are welcome to check the >> site and let me know if there are updates needed, and maybe fill in some >> of the question marks that are on the spreadsheet, as well as send links >> to your websites if they are missing. I did delete all of the dead >> website links, which was probably 10-12 of them, unfortunately. Their >> KRs live on though, as the performance data is still quite useful. >> >> Thanks.... >> >> Mark Langford >> m...@n56ml.com >> http://www.n56ml.com >> -------------------------------- >>> On 4/23/2019 7:23 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote: >>> As most of you know, and many of you have used and appreciate, there's a >>> "KR-info" performance spreadsheet posted on KRnet at >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html , where many of the flying KRs have >>> their vital statistics displayed for the help of the community. This is >>> useful for those planning to build a KR to help decide what they'd like >>> to build, and what propeller to use for a certain aircraft and engine >>> combination. For those already flying, it's a good way to see where >>> your plane stacks up in the mix, and perhaps help you think about what >>> you could do to increase efficiency. In recent weeks we've had >>> conversations from several folks who've detailed how they gradually >>> improved their planes to get higher speeds through more efficiency. >>> This kind of info is helpful to us all. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >>> ML "at" N56ML.com >>> www.N56ML.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 12:57:33 -0500 > From: Mark Langford <m...@n56ml.com> > To: Robert Sauer via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for > http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html > Message-ID: <c3b77a19-ce86-7701-20fc-540e1f630...@n56ml.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Bob, > > John did send it to me, but maybe I missed it. I'll add it in the next > few days if it's missing. > > Thanks.... > > Mark Langford > m...@n56ml.com > http://www.n56ml.com > > >> On 4/28/2019 12:27 PM, Robert Sauer via KRnet wrote: >> Mark, I sent mine to John Boyea as he wrote to me that he would sent them >> along with his to you...... Bob >> >> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:46 AM Mark Langford via KRnet < >> krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote: >> >>> OK....I got input from several folks, and have incorporated it into the >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.xls spreadsheet and >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html "dumb version". Thanks for the >>> updates. It's not too late for others to do some testing and submit >>> their numbers. I'll give ya'll until maybe after the Gathering to come >>> up with some numbers and send them my way, before I update it again. >>> That way maybe Stef and Jones will have some numbers! >>> Meanwhile, the folks whose planes are listed are welcome to check the >>> site and let me know if there are updates needed, and maybe fill in some >>> of the question marks that are on the spreadsheet, as well as send links >>> to your websites if they are missing. I did delete all of the dead >>> website links, which was probably 10-12 of them, unfortunately. Their >>> KRs live on though, as the performance data is still quite useful. >>> >>> Thanks.... >>> >>> Mark Langford >>> m...@n56ml.com >>> http://www.n56ml.com >>> -------------------------------- >>>> On 4/23/2019 7:23 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote: >>>> As most of you know, and many of you have used and appreciate, there's a >>>> "KR-info" performance spreadsheet posted on KRnet at >>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html , where many of the flying KRs have >>>> their vital statistics displayed for the help of the community. This is >>>> useful for those planning to build a KR to help decide what they'd like >>>> to build, and what propeller to use for a certain aircraft and engine >>>> combination. For those already flying, it's a good way to see where >>>> your plane stacks up in the mix, and perhaps help you think about what >>>> you could do to increase efficiency. In recent weeks we've had >>>> conversations from several folks who've detailed how they gradually >>>> improved their planes to get higher speeds through more efficiency. >>>> This kind of info is helpful to us all. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >>>> ML "at" N56ML.com >>>> www.N56ML.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>> options. >>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 13:00:57 -0500 > From: Mark Langford <m...@n56ml.com> > To: Robert Sauer via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for > http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html > Message-ID: <7f537abf-6c55-cecb-6eb7-c71ebf2b4...@n56ml.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I checked, and it's in there. Have you looked at the latest version, > posted this morning? If you don't see it, may you need to clear your > browser cache and try again. > > Mark Langford > m...@n56ml.com > http://www.n56ml.com > > >> On 4/28/2019 12:27 PM, Robert Sauer via KRnet wrote: >> Mark, I sent mine to John Boyea as he wrote to me that he would sent them >> along with his to you...... Bob >> >> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:46 AM Mark Langford via KRnet < >> krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote: >> >>> OK....I got input from several folks, and have incorporated it into the >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.xls spreadsheet and >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html "dumb version". Thanks for the >>> updates. It's not too late for others to do some testing and submit >>> their numbers. I'll give ya'll until maybe after the Gathering to come >>> up with some numbers and send them my way, before I update it again. >>> That way maybe Stef and Jones will have some numbers! >>> Meanwhile, the folks whose planes are listed are welcome to check the >>> site and let me know if there are updates needed, and maybe fill in some >>> of the question marks that are on the spreadsheet, as well as send links >>> to your websites if they are missing. I did delete all of the dead >>> website links, which was probably 10-12 of them, unfortunately. Their >>> KRs live on though, as the performance data is still quite useful. >>> >>> Thanks.... >>> >>> Mark Langford >>> m...@n56ml.com >>> http://www.n56ml.com >>> -------------------------------- >>>> On 4/23/2019 7:23 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote: >>>> As most of you know, and many of you have used and appreciate, there's a >>>> "KR-info" performance spreadsheet posted on KRnet at >>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html , where many of the flying KRs have >>>> their vital statistics displayed for the help of the community. This is >>>> useful for those planning to build a KR to help decide what they'd like >>>> to build, and what propeller to use for a certain aircraft and engine >>>> combination. For those already flying, it's a good way to see where >>>> your plane stacks up in the mix, and perhaps help you think about what >>>> you could do to increase efficiency. In recent weeks we've had >>>> conversations from several folks who've detailed how they gradually >>>> improved their planes to get higher speeds through more efficiency. >>>> This kind of info is helpful to us all. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >>>> ML "at" N56ML.com >>>> www.N56ML.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>> options. >>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 06:50:17 +1000 > From: Phillip Matheson <phillipmathe...@bigpond.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for > http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html > Message-ID: <f5246019-b39d-4c0c-9ab0-9b759a96b...@bigpond.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Mark. I would like to personally thank you for your fantastic effort , time , > information and support you have supplied to us all over the many years of > the krnet. > I hope to buy you a drink or two at Oshkosh. You you there. > Many thanks > Phil Matheson > http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/ > > Sent from my >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 21:56:48 -0500 > From: victor taylor <velocityo...@yahoo.com> > To: "krnet@list.krnet.org" <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: KR> Fuel pump O-200 > Message-ID: <ce5b8690-fa7f-4292-b06d-2007c9f65...@yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? > Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 23:43:10 -0400 (EDT) > From: Brant Hollensbe <bhollen...@mchsi.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump O-200 > Message-ID: > <1056155141.395320970.1556509390851.javamail.zim...@mchsi.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > In a step climb, your header tank is going to be lower and your engine higher > than in level flight. Is you carb going to be supplied with enough fuel in > that attitude?That all depends on the location of your carb and your header > tank. A simple mock up will tell you how high the tank will be above the > carb in a steep climb condition. > Brant HollensbeKDSM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: victor taylor via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Cc: victor taylor <velocityo...@yahoo.com> > Sent: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 22:56:48 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: KR> Fuel pump O-200 > > Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? > Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 07:42:45 -0500 > From: Randall Smith <crz...@yahoo.com> > To: KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> > Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump O-200 > Message-ID: <a356de0e-3c7a-42ed-a1c7-6390d5a79...@yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I put an 0200 in my KR and I had to run A fuel pump. Climbing out the > engine would starve. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 28, 2019, at 10:43 PM, Brant Hollensbe via KRnet >> <krnet@list.krnet.org> wrote: >> >> In a step climb, your header tank is going to be lower and your engine >> higher than in level flight. Is you carb going to be supplied with enough >> fuel in that attitude?That all depends on the location of your carb and your >> header tank. A simple mock up will tell you how high the tank will be above >> the carb in a steep climb condition. >> Brant HollensbeKDSM >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: victor taylor via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> To: krnet@list.krnet.org >> Cc: victor taylor <velocityo...@yahoo.com> >> Sent: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 22:56:48 -0400 (EDT) >> Subject: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >> >> Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? >> Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 07:24:44 -0600 > From: jeb <n12...@cybermesa.com> > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Subject: KR> cross wind limit > Message-ID: <91e616d7-2faf-5c2e-5528-ed71d2dc6...@cybermesa.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > What's y'alls cross wind limit? Tri-gear, tail wheel type of brakes? > > I've got nose wheel, Matco.? The other day while taxi testing in 15-20 > direct cross wind > > it weather vaned pretty bad and left brake wasn't enough to keep it > straight. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:04:59 +0200 > From: "Jeff Scott" <jscott.pla...@gmx.com> > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump O-200 > Message-ID: > > <trinity-4ec1c38c-ea96-4ab6-93fe-45f46ee8aa20-1556546699261@3c-app-mailcom-bs08> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I have a 9-1/2 gallon header tank, then transfer fuel from the wings to the > header periodically in flight. I have run the header down to nearly empty, > and flow tested it at high angles of attack. I've never had a flow problem > in over 1200 hours. But, whether you need a pump or not is really going to > depend on how low the bottom of you header tank might be. The real answer > will be in a properly executed flow test at high angles of incidence. In > that flow test, you want to run the fuel through the carb and measure the > flow rate coming out the drain plug of the carb. > > -Jeff Scott > North Arkansas > > --------------------- > >> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 at 9:56 PM >> From: "victor taylor via KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> To: "krnet@list.krnet.org" <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> Cc: "victor taylor" <velocityo...@yahoo.com> >> Subject: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >> >> Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? >> Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:13:46 +0200 > From: "Jeff Scott" <jscott.pla...@gmx.com> > To: krnet@list.krnet.org > Subject: Re: KR> cross wind limit > Message-ID: > > <trinity-99ee50b9-45d5-4437-92a1-6bad8b657494-1556547226678@3c-app-mailcom-bs08> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > When I was based at your airport, I limited myself to 15 kts crosswind > component overall. On take off, more than 10 kts from the left was > challenging as you had to keep bumping the right brake intermittently to keep > the plane headed down the runway. Around 40-45 kts, the rudder authority > becomes enough that you won't need the brakes. For crosswinds from the right, > you can add 5 kts more crosswind component as the plane naturally yaws to the > left under acceleration. For a Corvair or VW powered plane with the prop > turning the other direction, reverse the direction for these recommendations. > For taxi testing and until you become comfortable with the plane, I would > recommend keeping the crosswind component down to 10 kts. That will be > challenging enough. > > -Jeff Scott > North Arkansas > > > >> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 at 8:24 AM >> From: "jeb via KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> To: krnet@list.krnet.org >> Cc: jeb <n12...@cybermesa.com> >> Subject: KR> cross wind limit >> >> What's y'alls cross wind limit? Tri-gear, tail wheel type of brakes? >> >> I've got nose wheel, Matco.? The other day while taxi testing in 15-20 >> direct cross wind >> >> it weather vaned pretty bad and left brake wasn't enough to keep it >> straight. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > KRnet mailing list > KRnet@list.krnet.org > http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of KRnet Digest, Vol 7, Issue 102 > ************************************* _______________________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/krnet@list.krnet.org/. Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change options. To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@list.krnet.org