Thanks for that info Larry. I appreciate it very much and will follow it to the t.
Victor Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2019, at 11:00, [email protected] wrote: > > Send KRnet mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 7, Issue 103 (victor taylor) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 16:21:02 -0500 > From: victor taylor <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 7, Issue 103 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Thanks Mike, > > On Marty and Steve?s KR?s I generally flew them upright with only inverted > flying every now and then. Steve Alderman and I were reminiscing at Sun N Fun > this year about the time I rolled his KR inverted and pushed negative to > vertical to the tune of 4 g?s negative on his recording g meter. Of course I > was younger and weight about 120 lbs less then as well. Steve?s airplane was > super light and really fast. He could out run my Velocity at 12,000 feet. I > am a little more sane these days and prefer to just do positive maneuvers. > Thanks again for the advice. > > Victor > > >> On Apr 30, 2019, at 11:00, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Send KRnet mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: cross wind limit (Mark Jones) >> 2. Re: Who went ? (larry howell) >> 3. Re: Who went ? (Randall Smith) >> 4. Re: Fuel pump O-200 (Mike Sylvester) >> 5. Re: Fuel pump O-200 (Flesner) >> 6. Fuel pumps ([email protected]) >> 7. cross wind limit ([email protected]) >> 8. Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 7, Issue 102 (victor taylor) >> 9. Thank you, KR people. (Daniel Branstrom) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 14:45:45 -0400 >> From: Mark Jones <[email protected]> >> To: KRnet <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: KR> cross wind limit >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> With experience and in a 2S nose dragger, a 25 mph crosswind at 45 degrees >> was a piece of cake for me. When I arrived at the 2012 KR Gathering I made >> my shortest landing ever in N886MJ. The weather was not good that day as a >> matter of fact I landed 30 miles northwest of Mt Vernon because I had to >> wait for weather to lift some over MVN. Anyway when I did decide to go in, >> MVN had 20+ gusting. I chose runway 33 and made the very first turn off and >> if you look at an airport diagram that is a very short distance. There was >> never a time in the 552 hours I flew N886MJ that the winds kept me from >> departing or arriving an airport. >> >> Mark Jones >> Oldsmar, Fl >> >> N771MJ ?WunderBird? >> www.flykr2s.com >> [email protected] >> >> >> >>> On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:24 AM, jeb via KRnet <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> What's y'alls cross wind limit? Tri-gear, tail wheel type of brakes? >>> >>> I've got nose wheel, Matco. The other day while taxi testing in 15-20 >>> direct cross wind >>> >>> it weather vaned pretty bad and left brake wasn't enough to keep it >>> straight. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>> options. >>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 15:13:28 -0500 >> From: larry howell <[email protected]> >> To: KRnet <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: KR> Who went ? >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> >> Larry H >> >>> On Apr 8, 2019, at 7:40 PM, Mike Sylvester via KRnet <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I was there last year and was very disappointed in the number of >>> homebuilts. Since I didn't make SNF I am going to try very hard to get to >>> Oshkosh. I hope the weather is better than last year. >>> >>> Mike Sylvester >>> kr2s builder >>> Birmingham,AL. >>> >>> There was somewhat of a protest going on at Sun n Fun by homebuilders after >>> the tornado flipped some airplanes a few short years ago. The word I >>> received, some poor guys plane (a biplane I think)was thrown upside down, 8 >>> gallons of fuel leaked out, EPA or some lunatic agency was fining the guy >>> thousands of dollars. The Sun n Fun operators were not backing the poor guy >>> and left him exposed and on his own, so many declined to show back up in >>> protest. Since I don't attend there now I had no idea if very many followed >>> through with their protest. I have no idea if that situation was remedied >>> by the Sun n Fun operators or if the guy was just left hung out to dry! >>> Larry H >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 15:25:10 -0500 >> From: Randall Smith <[email protected]> >> To: KRnet <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: KR> Who went ? >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> I quit going to Sun and fun when the state of Florida decided to run >> registrations anything that had been flying within the first six months they >> send a tax bill to at 6% I?m not sure how many people paid that. they >> eventually change the law to exclude temporary flight into Florida like they >> have for those visiting with motorhomes. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 29, 2019, at 3:13 PM, larry howell via KRnet <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Larry H >>> >>>> On Apr 8, 2019, at 7:40 PM, Mike Sylvester via KRnet >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I was there last year and was very disappointed in the number of >>>> homebuilts. Since I didn't make SNF I am going to try very hard to get to >>>> Oshkosh. I hope the weather is better than last year. >>>> >>>> Mike Sylvester >>>> kr2s builder >>>> Birmingham,AL. >>>> >>>> There was somewhat of a protest going on at Sun n Fun by homebuilders >>>> after the tornado flipped some airplanes a few short years ago. The word I >>>> received, some poor guys plane (a biplane I think)was thrown upside down, >>>> 8 gallons of fuel leaked out, EPA or some lunatic agency was fining the >>>> guy thousands of dollars. The Sun n Fun operators were not backing the >>>> poor guy and left him exposed and on his own, so many declined to show >>>> back up in protest. Since I don't attend there now I had no idea if very >>>> many followed through with their protest. I have no idea if that >>>> situation was remedied by the Sun n Fun operators or if the guy was just >>>> left hung out to dry! Larry H >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>> options. >>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 23:34:57 +0000 >> From: Mike Sylvester <[email protected]> >> To: KRnet <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >> Message-ID: >> >> <cy4pr05mb36072a85f30998c3c68fe246c4...@cy4pr05mb3607.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Vic, I gravity feed fuel from my header tank to the carb on my O-200 powered >> KR. My header tank is sitting on the bottom shelf that is behind the >> firewall. I can run it totally dry with the M/S carburetor with no problems. >> That being said, other than some high speed passes with steep climbs I'm >> pretty much a calm and coordinated flyer. One recommendation, Make sure your >> vent line doesn't trap fuel. Even gravity doesn't work if the vent becomes >> blocked. In the test phase I lost power twice and had to dead stick it in. I >> was lost for an answer until I talked to Jeff Scott, he is very >> knowledgeable man. >> >> Mike Sylvester >> kr2s builder >> Birmingham,AL. >> >> Cell no.205-966-3854 >> >> ________________________________ >> From: KRnet <[email protected]> on behalf of victor taylor via >> KRnet <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 9:56 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: victor taylor >> Subject: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >> >> Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? >> Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 19:01:31 -0500 >> From: Flesner <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >>> On 4/29/2019 6:34 PM, Mike Sylvester via KRnet wrote: >>> Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? >>> Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> I don't have a header tank at all and run 2 electric fuel pumps. >> However, here are some things to keep in mind.? I'm assuming you're >> running a Marvel Schebler carb.? If you end up installing a pump make >> sure to do the gravity fuel flow test with the pump installed and turned >> off.? If you do install a pump, make sure it is the very low pressure >> type, 3 to 5 pounds.? If you have a concern on pump pressure install a >> fuel pressure regulator and set to 3 1/2 to 4 pounds.? I think the carb >> has a limit of around 5 1/2 pounds without modification.? I have my >> pressure regulator set to 3 1/2 pounds. >> >> You're looking for 150% of fuel burn at full power in the worst case >> situation, low fuel, nose high.? The 0-200 manual claims about 8 gph at >> 2750 rpm so shoot for 12 gph fuel flow in the test.? Test for six >> minutes and multiply by 10 to make it easy. If you can't get that with >> gravity it may require it be mandatory to run pump on t.o. and landing >> and other unusual attitudes.? Some simple test with tell you what's >> required. >> >> Larry Flesner >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 17:49:32 -0700 >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: KR> Fuel pumps >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >>> "In that flow test, you want to run the fuel through the carb and >> measure the flow rate coming out the drain plug of the carb." >> >> Wouldn't one want a pressure regulator somewhere between the fuel pump >> and the carb? Maybe the carbs you're referring to have one built in to >> them, such as a float valve. If the float ever degrades however, a >> pressure regulator might be a good thing to have. My Ellison requires an >> external regulator ahead of the carb inlet. >> >> Re fuel pumps, I've got a Facet for transferring fuel from wing tank to >> header like Jeff is mentioning, and I've got two fuel pumps (primary and >> a back-up on separate switch) between the header and my top mounted >> Ellison. They're the round ones that look like fuel filters. In all >> these years none of these pumps have ever failed. >> >> I turned my pump off one day in level cruise with fuel tank level well >> below the level of the Ellison. The engine continued to run just fine >> using siphon effect. I didn't test it with a climb or descent. It's >> good to know the engine will continue to run without the pump but it's >> always on anyway. >> >> An electric fuel pump is not something I would leave out of the fuel >> system . . . why would you consider it? To avoid having to use a >> pressure regulator? Not criticising, just wondering. I don't know >> enough about your carb and fuel system to say anything helpful. >> >> Mike >> KSEE >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Drink 1 Cup Before Bed, Watch Your Body Fat Melt Like Crazy >> mayserve-magestor.com >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5cc79bf6102531bf57114st04vuc >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 18:34:49 -0700 >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: KR> cross wind limit >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> Something that can be even more of a concern than directional control is >> having a gust lift you off the runway before the plane is ready to fly. >> I'm not sure why my rudder would be any different than anyone else's, but >> it's always been sufficient to counter any wind no matter how strong. >> Therefore I don't have an arbitrarily set crosswind limit. Perhaps Ken >> Cottle built the rudder a little larger than what the plans call for . . >> . but it looks like a normal KR vertical stabilizer & rudder (I think). >> Knowing this and being overconfident and careless, on takeoff I let a >> gust lift me up before the plane was ready to fly. If there had been any >> obstructions alongside the runway, trees, buildings, vehicles, etc. I >> would have hit them. As it was, I hung in ground effect (barely) >> desperately playing with the mixture to squeeze a few more RPM's to >> gradually build enough speed to climb out of the situation. Pure luck >> that I didn't lose the plane. >> . >> This happened in strong, gusty winds on takeoff at Raton, NM. Heavy with >> full fuel (22 gallons) and the weight of all my travelling paraphanelia, >> I was careless and let a gust lift me up and blow me off to the side. It >> happened in an instant. It was pure luck that allowed me to crawl along >> just above the rough scrub passing so closely below. Close call I've >> never forgotten. Usually it's landing that gets our attention, not so >> much the takeoff. I was careless and didn't forcefully hold it on the >> runway while building takeoff speed. Winds on the front range can wipe a >> plane out easily and quickly so that takeoff was a really good lesson. >> It's easy to forget just how light our KR's are and what low wing loading >> they have. Mine is 13.5 at full gross, normal for KR's I think. >> >> On the other hand, a KR with the retractable gear definitely can't handle >> really strong crosswinds without hitting a wingtip. >> >> Mike >> KSEE >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Drink 1 Cup Before Bed, Watch Your Body Fat Melt Like Crazy >> mayserve-magestor.com >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5cc7a661bfcbf266129acst03vuc >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 01:51:08 -0400 >> From: victor taylor <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 7, Issue 102 >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Thanks for the info guys. I?ll install a fuel pump. >> >> Victor >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 29, 2019, at 12:00, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> Send KRnet mailing list submissions to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> [email protected] >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (Mark Langford) >>> 2. Re: plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (Robert Sauer) >>> 3. Re: plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (Mark Langford) >>> 4. Re: plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (Mark Langford) >>> 5. Re: plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (Phillip Matheson) >>> 6. Fuel pump O-200 (victor taylor) >>> 7. Re: Fuel pump O-200 (Brant Hollensbe) >>> 8. Re: Fuel pump O-200 (Randall Smith) >>> 9. cross wind limit (jeb) >>> 10. Re: Fuel pump O-200 (Jeff Scott) >>> 11. Re: cross wind limit (Jeff Scott) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:45:28 -0500 >>> From: Mark Langford <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: KR> plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >>> >>> OK....I got input from several folks, and have incorporated it into the >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.xls spreadsheet and >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html "dumb version". Thanks for the >>> updates. It's not too late for others to do some testing and submit >>> their numbers. I'll give ya'll until maybe after the Gathering to come >>> up with some numbers and send them my way, before I update it again. >>> That way maybe Stef and Jones will have some numbers! >>> Meanwhile, the folks whose planes are listed are welcome to check the >>> site and let me know if there are updates needed, and maybe fill in some >>> of the question marks that are on the spreadsheet, as well as send links >>> to your websites if they are missing. I did delete all of the dead >>> website links, which was probably 10-12 of them, unfortunately. Their >>> KRs live on though, as the performance data is still quite useful. >>> >>> Thanks.... >>> >>> Mark Langford >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.n56ml.com >>> -------------------------------- >>>> On 4/23/2019 7:23 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote: >>>> As most of you know, and many of you have used and appreciate, there's a >>>> "KR-info" performance spreadsheet posted on KRnet at >>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html , where many of the flying KRs have >>>> their vital statistics displayed for the help of the community. This is >>>> useful for those planning to build a KR to help decide what they'd like >>>> to build, and what propeller to use for a certain aircraft and engine >>>> combination. For those already flying, it's a good way to see where >>>> your plane stacks up in the mix, and perhaps help you think about what >>>> you could do to increase efficiency. In recent weeks we've had >>>> conversations from several folks who've detailed how they gradually >>>> improved their planes to get higher speeds through more efficiency. >>>> This kind of info is helpful to us all. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >>>> ML "at" N56ML.com >>>> www.N56ML.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 10:27:06 -0700 >>> From: Robert Sauer <[email protected]> >>> To: KRnet <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: KR> plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html >>> Message-ID: >>> <canuxmcsttefnc0pqc_czwjnkzfbemjtg-jzx6s8iuzahmfm...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Mark, I sent mine to John Boyea as he wrote to me that he would sent them >>> along with his to you...... Bob >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:46 AM Mark Langford via KRnet < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> OK....I got input from several folks, and have incorporated it into the >>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.xls spreadsheet and >>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html "dumb version". Thanks for the >>>> updates. It's not too late for others to do some testing and submit >>>> their numbers. I'll give ya'll until maybe after the Gathering to come >>>> up with some numbers and send them my way, before I update it again. >>>> That way maybe Stef and Jones will have some numbers! >>>> Meanwhile, the folks whose planes are listed are welcome to check the >>>> site and let me know if there are updates needed, and maybe fill in some >>>> of the question marks that are on the spreadsheet, as well as send links >>>> to your websites if they are missing. I did delete all of the dead >>>> website links, which was probably 10-12 of them, unfortunately. Their >>>> KRs live on though, as the performance data is still quite useful. >>>> >>>> Thanks.... >>>> >>>> Mark Langford >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.n56ml.com >>>> -------------------------------- >>>>> On 4/23/2019 7:23 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote: >>>>> As most of you know, and many of you have used and appreciate, there's a >>>>> "KR-info" performance spreadsheet posted on KRnet at >>>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html , where many of the flying KRs have >>>>> their vital statistics displayed for the help of the community. This is >>>>> useful for those planning to build a KR to help decide what they'd like >>>>> to build, and what propeller to use for a certain aircraft and engine >>>>> combination. For those already flying, it's a good way to see where >>>>> your plane stacks up in the mix, and perhaps help you think about what >>>>> you could do to increase efficiency. In recent weeks we've had >>>>> conversations from several folks who've detailed how they gradually >>>>> improved their planes to get higher speeds through more efficiency. >>>>> This kind of info is helpful to us all. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >>>>> ML "at" N56ML.com >>>>> www.N56ML.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>>> options. >>>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 12:57:33 -0500 >>> From: Mark Langford <[email protected]> >>> To: Robert Sauer via KRnet <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: KR> plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >>> >>> Bob, >>> >>> John did send it to me, but maybe I missed it. I'll add it in the next >>> few days if it's missing. >>> >>> Thanks.... >>> >>> Mark Langford >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.n56ml.com >>> >>> >>>> On 4/28/2019 12:27 PM, Robert Sauer via KRnet wrote: >>>> Mark, I sent mine to John Boyea as he wrote to me that he would sent them >>>> along with his to you...... Bob >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:46 AM Mark Langford via KRnet < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> OK....I got input from several folks, and have incorporated it into the >>>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.xls spreadsheet and >>>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html "dumb version". Thanks for the >>>>> updates. It's not too late for others to do some testing and submit >>>>> their numbers. I'll give ya'll until maybe after the Gathering to come >>>>> up with some numbers and send them my way, before I update it again. >>>>> That way maybe Stef and Jones will have some numbers! >>>>> Meanwhile, the folks whose planes are listed are welcome to check the >>>>> site and let me know if there are updates needed, and maybe fill in some >>>>> of the question marks that are on the spreadsheet, as well as send links >>>>> to your websites if they are missing. I did delete all of the dead >>>>> website links, which was probably 10-12 of them, unfortunately. Their >>>>> KRs live on though, as the performance data is still quite useful. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks.... >>>>> >>>>> Mark Langford >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://www.n56ml.com >>>>> -------------------------------- >>>>>> On 4/23/2019 7:23 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote: >>>>>> As most of you know, and many of you have used and appreciate, there's a >>>>>> "KR-info" performance spreadsheet posted on KRnet at >>>>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html , where many of the flying KRs have >>>>>> their vital statistics displayed for the help of the community. This is >>>>>> useful for those planning to build a KR to help decide what they'd like >>>>>> to build, and what propeller to use for a certain aircraft and engine >>>>>> combination. For those already flying, it's a good way to see where >>>>>> your plane stacks up in the mix, and perhaps help you think about what >>>>>> you could do to increase efficiency. In recent weeks we've had >>>>>> conversations from several folks who've detailed how they gradually >>>>>> improved their planes to get higher speeds through more efficiency. >>>>>> This kind of info is helpful to us all. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >>>>>> ML "at" N56ML.com >>>>>> www.N56ML.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>>>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>>>> options. >>>>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>>> options. >>>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 13:00:57 -0500 >>> From: Mark Langford <[email protected]> >>> To: Robert Sauer via KRnet <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: KR> plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >>> >>> I checked, and it's in there. Have you looked at the latest version, >>> posted this morning? If you don't see it, may you need to clear your >>> browser cache and try again. >>> >>> Mark Langford >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.n56ml.com >>> >>> >>>> On 4/28/2019 12:27 PM, Robert Sauer via KRnet wrote: >>>> Mark, I sent mine to John Boyea as he wrote to me that he would sent them >>>> along with his to you...... Bob >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:46 AM Mark Langford via KRnet < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> OK....I got input from several folks, and have incorporated it into the >>>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.xls spreadsheet and >>>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html "dumb version". Thanks for the >>>>> updates. It's not too late for others to do some testing and submit >>>>> their numbers. I'll give ya'll until maybe after the Gathering to come >>>>> up with some numbers and send them my way, before I update it again. >>>>> That way maybe Stef and Jones will have some numbers! >>>>> Meanwhile, the folks whose planes are listed are welcome to check the >>>>> site and let me know if there are updates needed, and maybe fill in some >>>>> of the question marks that are on the spreadsheet, as well as send links >>>>> to your websites if they are missing. I did delete all of the dead >>>>> website links, which was probably 10-12 of them, unfortunately. Their >>>>> KRs live on though, as the performance data is still quite useful. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks.... >>>>> >>>>> Mark Langford >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://www.n56ml.com >>>>> -------------------------------- >>>>>> On 4/23/2019 7:23 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet wrote: >>>>>> As most of you know, and many of you have used and appreciate, there's a >>>>>> "KR-info" performance spreadsheet posted on KRnet at >>>>>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html , where many of the flying KRs have >>>>>> their vital statistics displayed for the help of the community. This is >>>>>> useful for those planning to build a KR to help decide what they'd like >>>>>> to build, and what propeller to use for a certain aircraft and engine >>>>>> combination. For those already flying, it's a good way to see where >>>>>> your plane stacks up in the mix, and perhaps help you think about what >>>>>> you could do to increase efficiency. In recent weeks we've had >>>>>> conversations from several folks who've detailed how they gradually >>>>>> improved their planes to get higher speeds through more efficiency. >>>>>> This kind of info is helpful to us all. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >>>>>> ML "at" N56ML.com >>>>>> www.N56ML.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>>>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>>>> options. >>>>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>>> options. >>>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 06:50:17 +1000 >>> From: Phillip Matheson <[email protected]> >>> To: KRnet <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: KR> plea for newly flying aircraft flight info input for >>> http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Mark. I would like to personally thank you for your fantastic effort , time >>> , information and support you have supplied to us all over the many years >>> of the krnet. >>> I hope to buy you a drink or two at Oshkosh. You you there. >>> Many thanks >>> Phil Matheson >>> http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/ >>> >>> Sent from my >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>>> options. >>>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 6 >>> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 21:56:48 -0500 >>> From: victor taylor <[email protected]> >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? >>> Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 7 >>> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 23:43:10 -0400 (EDT) >>> From: Brant Hollensbe <[email protected]> >>> To: KRnet <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >>> Message-ID: >>> <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> In a step climb, your header tank is going to be lower and your engine >>> higher than in level flight. Is you carb going to be supplied with enough >>> fuel in that attitude?That all depends on the location of your carb and >>> your header tank. A simple mock up will tell you how high the tank will be >>> above the carb in a steep climb condition. >>> Brant HollensbeKDSM >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: victor taylor via KRnet <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Cc: victor taylor <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 22:56:48 -0400 (EDT) >>> Subject: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >>> >>> Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? >>> Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>> options. >>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 8 >>> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 07:42:45 -0500 >>> From: Randall Smith <[email protected]> >>> To: KRnet <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> I put an 0200 in my KR and I had to run A fuel pump. Climbing out the >>> engine would starve. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Apr 28, 2019, at 10:43 PM, Brant Hollensbe via KRnet >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> In a step climb, your header tank is going to be lower and your engine >>>> higher than in level flight. Is you carb going to be supplied with enough >>>> fuel in that attitude?That all depends on the location of your carb and >>>> your header tank. A simple mock up will tell you how high the tank will >>>> be above the carb in a steep climb condition. >>>> Brant HollensbeKDSM >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: victor taylor via KRnet <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Cc: victor taylor <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 22:56:48 -0400 (EDT) >>>> Subject: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >>>> >>>> Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? >>>> Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>>> options. >>>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>>> options. >>>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 9 >>> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 07:24:44 -0600 >>> From: jeb <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: KR> cross wind limit >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >>> >>> What's y'alls cross wind limit? Tri-gear, tail wheel type of brakes? >>> >>> I've got nose wheel, Matco.? The other day while taxi testing in 15-20 >>> direct cross wind >>> >>> it weather vaned pretty bad and left brake wasn't enough to keep it >>> straight. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 10 >>> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:04:59 +0200 >>> From: "Jeff Scott" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> <trinity-4ec1c38c-ea96-4ab6-93fe-45f46ee8aa20-1556546699261@3c-app-mailcom-bs08> >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> I have a 9-1/2 gallon header tank, then transfer fuel from the wings to the >>> header periodically in flight. I have run the header down to nearly empty, >>> and flow tested it at high angles of attack. I've never had a flow problem >>> in over 1200 hours. But, whether you need a pump or not is really going to >>> depend on how low the bottom of you header tank might be. The real answer >>> will be in a properly executed flow test at high angles of incidence. In >>> that flow test, you want to run the fuel through the carb and measure the >>> flow rate coming out the drain plug of the carb. >>> >>> -Jeff Scott >>> North Arkansas >>> >>> --------------------- >>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 at 9:56 PM >>>> From: "victor taylor via KRnet" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: "victor taylor" <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: KR> Fuel pump O-200 >>>> >>>> Hello O-200 Guys. Do I need a fuel pump if I only have a header tank? >>>> Victor Taylor Irvington, Alabama >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>>> options. >>>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 11 >>> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:13:46 +0200 >>> From: "Jeff Scott" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: KR> cross wind limit >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> <trinity-99ee50b9-45d5-4437-92a1-6bad8b657494-1556547226678@3c-app-mailcom-bs08> >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> When I was based at your airport, I limited myself to 15 kts crosswind >>> component overall. On take off, more than 10 kts from the left was >>> challenging as you had to keep bumping the right brake intermittently to >>> keep the plane headed down the runway. Around 40-45 kts, the rudder >>> authority becomes enough that you won't need the brakes. For crosswinds >>> from the right, you can add 5 kts more crosswind component as the plane >>> naturally yaws to the left under acceleration. For a Corvair or VW powered >>> plane with the prop turning the other direction, reverse the direction for >>> these recommendations. For taxi testing and until you become comfortable >>> with the plane, I would recommend keeping the crosswind component down to >>> 10 kts. That will be challenging enough. >>> >>> -Jeff Scott >>> North Arkansas >>> >>> >>> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 at 8:24 AM >>>> From: "jeb via KRnet" <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Cc: jeb <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: KR> cross wind limit >>>> >>>> What's y'alls cross wind limit? Tri-gear, tail wheel type of brakes? >>>> >>>> I've got nose wheel, Matco.? The other day while taxi testing in 15-20 >>>> direct cross wind >>>> >>>> it weather vaned pretty bad and left brake wasn't enough to keep it >>>> straight. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html >>> KRnet mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of KRnet Digest, Vol 7, Issue 102 >>> ************************************* >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 01:06:59 -0700 >> From: Daniel Branstrom <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: KR> Thank you, KR people. >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> I want to specifically thank John Bouyer, Joe Beyer, and Pete Gauthier >> for their generosity in showing me their KR projects and engines this >> week while I've been visiting Portland, Oregon. I'm not a KR builder, >> nor am I anticipating building one, but the ingenuity and work of the KR >> crowd is always informative, enlightening, and friendly. I attended the >> gathering at Chino several years ago, and it's always fun to meet and >> hang out with members of the KR community. >> >> Since the KR is a plans-built aircraft, there are many ingenious ways in >> which builders have put them together and come up with individual >> solutions to individual needs. I'm impressed every time that I look at a >> different plane. KRs are definitely not cookie-cutter aircraft. >> >> Dan Branstrom >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html >> KRnet mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of KRnet Digest, Vol 7, Issue 103 >> ************************************* > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > KRnet mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of KRnet Digest, Vol 7, Issue 104 > ************************************* _______________________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. 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