On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:09 AM, apok <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Quote"I'd say it's the fault of your OS....for not automounting."
> > I'm assuming this is what you were trying to say. As I've pointed out
> > already, you misunderstood my post, I'm sorry if I didn't make it
> > clear, but the OS does automount, Nautilus does automount, other file
> > managers automount, it's just Krusader that doesn't. Krusader (only)
> > will not see any usb devices unless I first open them in nautilus,
> > copy the device mount folder location from the address bar and paste
> > them in the Krusader address bar, that is the only way it sees the
> > usb device, and even doing this Krusader (only) does not recognize
> > the android phone at all, as in never, not going to happen.
>
> I think you're not clear on something. The OS mounts a device (commonly
> a file in /dev) on a mountpoint (a directory). It attaches a
> file-system on the device to the big file-system of your OS.
>
> Once the OS mounts a device the file-manager does not need to mount it
> also. You just navigate to the mountpoint with your file-manager.
>
> Are you saying that:
> 0) Nautilus should be closed.
> 1) You plug in the device.
> 2) Let your os mount it to /some/dir
> 3) In the terminal you do `ls -l /some/dir` and it shows the
> files on the device.
> 4) In Krusader navigating to /some/dir shows no files.
>
> Krusader doesn't care what device it is; it just lists files in a
> directory.
>
> PS: You did top-post, but at least you care about this. Please put the
> message you're quoting *above* your message.
>


Maybe I got it right this time. I now understand your statement about
mounting devices, I was using the term "mount" in a loose way, just to
indicate the file manager being able to see and locate the device, and show
files inside it. I made sure Krusader was closed, plugged in a device,
opened a terminal entered "ls -l/media/mypassport/" the terminal shows the
files, open Krusader, click on the drop down list of drives and devices,
and device is not there.  In #4, you mentioned navigating to
/media/passport/ and seeing files inside, actually all I can see is
"/media/", "mypassport" is not even in the list. What I do have in the list
is

50 GIG Hard Disk (ext4)
450 GIG hard disk (ntfs)

Nautilus shows
50g Zorin8
450g Windows7
50g Xboot
200g mypassport

With xboot and mypassport being two partitions on one external drive, xboot
is a partition created by an .iso to usb "burner" to install my Linux OS.
That's what I don't understand, the terminal sees the external, and the
phone, nautilus sees them both, and can manipulate the files inside, but
Krusader does not see the drive, unless I copy&paste the drive address
information from nautilus to Krusader, then Krusader will see the external
unless I close Krusader or unplug/replug the external then I have to
copy&paste again for Krusader to see it again. No matter what I do,
Krusader will not accept the phone address no matter what, here is the
address nautilus shows for the phone internal memory

mtp://[usb:003,008]/Internal%20storage

I try and paste that into Krusader, it shows that address, I hit enter,
this address disappears, and the previous address comes back up. Hopefully,
I'm now speaking the same language you are, and not using words differently
confusing everyone in the process lol.


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