More info from another .xsession-errors message: kmail: WARNING: FolderStorage::getMsg, message has no sernum, index: 0
Well that's odd. It stored a message that it refuses to retrieve... there are most certainly some bugs inside kmail here. I speculate this one may be related to the way sometimes when kmail crashes, the message most recently written into a given folder will be unreadable (displays as all white in the message window, but the $SUBJECT etc are readable in the list pane) and undeletable (producing a "crossed out" graphic in the list pane that never vanishes ... usually it's just barely visible before it's completely erased) and unmovable. Hey, great -- no sooner do I have *that* theory than I observe that the first message in the outbox is unreadable in exactly that way. And of course I can't manually move it to a different folder. ... So I was able to recover the outbox folder manually: (a) with kmail open, move all messages to the "drafts" folder, except obviously the unrecoverable one; (b) create an "empty" folder; (c) quit kmail; (d) manually move that message to someplace I can recover it from by hand, so the outbox/cur directory is empty; (e) overwite the .outbox.index* files with the .empty.index* ones, removing the .outbox.index.sorted file; (f) reopen kmail; (g) move the messages back from "drafts" to "outbox"; (h) Now try "send queued messages" ... it works!! I'll have to re-create that one problematic message myself. It's just a patch submission after all; easy. CONCLUSION: this *IS* the same problem I've seen when reading messages in the (temporal) vicinity of a kmail crash. (All crashes I've seen have been caused by me pressing the "reply all" button. I speculate that mail was being added to that folder at the same time, since after the crash there are always a few not-seen-before messages.) It's just that when this folder corruption happens on the outbox, the symptoms are even more damaging... and when I've had to work around this with non-"outbox" folders, I could recover by just removing the message from the folder, no need for all the (a)..(h) shenanigans. -- kmail suddenly stopped sending mail https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/243825 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is subscribed to kdepim in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs